Lay Off My Wife

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar
...there is Raceism in this race.

Of course, racism still exists in America. When 95% of black males vote for Obama or when 20% of West Viginia whites say that they won't vote for Obama because of race.

But FOTD says everybody who doesn't support Obama is racist. I consider that proof that idiocy still exists in America as well.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Gaspar, try to be a decent person. Advocating the decriminalization of a victimless crime does not make one a user.

You do the same thing to me that you do to these discussions...make them personal.

Tsk tsk.

My apologies.  I have nothing against smokin a fatty and poundin some wisdom out on the old keyboard.  Do continue.

I was just commenting on your treatment of RM in this thread.  He made the statement that "What a ridiculous assertion. Everyone who is opposed or criticizes Obama only does so because they are secretly racist. Really?"  and you replied with something incoherent.

I simply assumed that a seed had clogged the stem of your big blue bong (the one with with the space your face sticker on the side).  I was wrong to make such an assumption, you have my apology.

Continue.

[FOTD]

I've never said those that don't support Obama are racist. NEVER!

What I've said is there will be tactics used to substitute fear for the real issues.

Same as it's been with the republicans for many years now.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

I've never said those that don't support Obama are racist. NEVER!

What I've said is there will be tactics used to substitute fear for the real issues.

Same as it's been with the republicans for many years now.

Fear is used on both sides because it's a motivator.  Obama spoke Friday in front of a bunch of older americans at a retirement home.  He played that old favorite "the Republicans are going to take away your social security".  

Don't act like fear is only a republican tactic!  Emotion motivates, and both sides will offer the whole spectrum of emotional ploys to pull and push the less intelligent voters.

It all must boil down to simple logic for me.  The positions, track record, capabilities, and manner in which the candidate handles the media and other leaders.

I'm starting to like Obama more, now that he has proposed the addition of an additional 7 states.  And he's wearing his new 57 state lapel pin!

[FOTD]

Faux patriotism is not a real issue.

Social Security is a real issue. I look forward to an honest President who will warn me rather than scare me. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080518/ap_on_el_pr/democrats;_ylt=AtE39qhbHasW4dnJatwhnnqs0NUE

As a boomer, I am fearful the amount promised me by our government will not be there for me.

Name the new 7 states and the reason for you inserting them into this thread.

[Breadburner]

She should think more before she opens her cock-holster.....

[FOTD]

Way to go BB... a hit and run sucker punch.

LOL

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I can't believe the rationalization I just read. She is not a former president so we can't talk about what she says?

She is on the campaign trail every day making speeches for her husband. She says something stupid and people comment on it.

No one is attacking his kids, his parents or anyone else in the family. She is campaigning.

How is she any different than any other campaign person? Other campaign people resign when they embarrass the campaign.

I am sorry, you don't get special rules just because you are married to the candidate. I will attack Cindy McCain for her refusal to turn over tax records for 28 years.

Obama doesn't get to decide what is "acceptable".

While it may seem unfair, the fact that Clinton is the former president means that his statements are more significant than any other spouse's, for good or bad.  His comments would make news even if his wife weren't running for president.  Hillary's marriage to a former president is both helpful and harmful.  And unlike the other spouses, Bill Clinton is a career politician.  He knows how to play these games--he's one of the best.  So when he makes comments that are harmful to Obama, people naturally assume that they are intentional.

Ultimately, I think you are correct that this is only political posturing of Obama--of course Obama doesn't decide what is acceptable.  No candidate does.  But he can certainly strongly defend his wife (unlike Dukakis, who committed political suicide for not defending his).  

Ultmiately, though, I think that what Michelle Obama mistakenly said a few months back has no bearing on whose spouse will make the best president.

I think, though, if you are going to insist that Cindy McCain release her tax records, shouldn't Bill Clinton release records of donations to his library?

[sgrizzle]

OBAMA IS BLACK?!?!
Why didn't anybody tell me that?

I need to go change my vote, my voter registration and my dental plan.

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Obama needs to quit being such a whiny ***** and grow some thicker skin if he wants to be President.  It might also help if he and his wife weren't a couple of closet Marxists.

If it was a Republican who did this you'd be praising him for DEFENDING HIS WIFE AND DEFENDING HIS FAMILY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZY6WLKGkJY

Here's some of his quotes:  "The GOP, should I be the nominee, can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record."  "If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful because I find that unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."... "low class"..."lay off my wife"...

But since he's a dem, you're gonna characterize him as a whiny *****.  Typical cheapshot republican tactic of trying everything you can to emasculate the dem candidate...

His wife grew up on the southside of Chicago... she is a very strong woman but... SHE IS NOT A POLITICIAN.

Let's see.  You've previously characterized Hillary Clinton as a communist... so, if you consider Barack and Michelle Obama as "closet Marxists" then... based on that flawed logic... you sir, are a CLOSET FASCIST.  [)]

If you should ever run for office Conan, I'd start a thread saying that if Adolf Hitler were alive, he'd be endorsing you... nothing like craptastic gotcha politics... and if you complain about any of my tactics, I'll just call you a "whiny *****."  [}:)]

RM says:  "It was perfectly fine to attack Bill on the campaign trail, but not Michelle. What is your definition of special treatment?"

Hmmm.  "It was perfectly fine to attack Bill on the campaign trail, but not Chelsea.  What is your definition of special treatment?"  There.  Fixed your post.... pot to kettle... come in kettle...

Bill Clinton is a former president and one of slickest politicians this side of Richard Nixon... it's definitely a grey area with respect to treatment of spouses and children who campaign for their family... using one out-of-context sound bite to bludgeon a candidate's wife as unpatriotic and un-American... is well... unpatriotic and un-American.

"Amerika, Amerika, uber alles"... [B)]

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle


OBAMA IS BLACK?!?!
Why didn't anybody tell me that?

I need to go change my vote, my voter registration and my dental plan.

But I've HEARD he's muslim too!

[waterboy]

Hmmm. About a week ago John McCain goes ballistic and sounds like a whiny little nut sack when Obama muses that he might have lost his bearings. "HE'S SAYING I'M OLD!! NO FAIR!! HE CAN'T SAY I'M OLD. NOW HE'S IN TROUBLE!! SO ITS LIKE THAT EH? I'LL SHOW HIM OLD" Or something to that effect.[}:)] So tell me Gaspar, oh great reader of political tea leaves, how did that hit you? That sound like a real able political fighter whose holding his cards tight and ready for a good rumble? Or a whiny little Bush clone desperately looking for something to fight about other than issues. Wait till someone attacks his trophy wife and then compare reactions.

Oh yeah, sorry about the closet republican remark earlier. I mistook you for one of the many libertarians on this forum I have some respect for. You arent' in the closet at all apparently.

[Hometown]

To be specific Obama is Mulatto:  Half Black and half White.  

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

To be specific Obama is Mulatto:  Half Black and half White.  

Does that make his detractors half racist?

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Faux patriotism is not a real issue.



Name the new 7 states and the reason for you inserting them into this thread.

You must have missed the speech last week where he kept referring to "These 57 states."  It was just a slip, but funny none the less.  I'm sure he knows how many states there are.