James Inhofe v. Andrew Rice

[Conan71]

I'm really suprised Rice is the best the Dems could offer this year, he's another candidate like Genteges.  

I think Henry could have knocked Inhofe off by a few percent.  

[FOTD]

It is what it is.....Can you visualize Jimmy boy in another 6 years. OMG, it'll make ole Strom Thurman look like a lion.

Vote for Andrew Rice...we can do better!

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

It is what it is.....Can you visualize Jimmy boy in another 6 years. OMG, it'll make ole Strom Thurman look like a lion.

Vote for Andrew Rice...we can do better!

You got that right, we can do a lot better than Rice.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

It is what it is.....Can you visualize Jimmy boy in another 6 years. OMG, it'll make ole Strom Thurman look like a lion.

Vote for Andrew Rice...we can do better!

You got that right, we can do a lot better than Rice.

Way to twist the words around......like a true repiglicant.

Rice is better than puke.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


Rice is better than puke.

Rice is basically your Dumbocrat party saying six more years of Inhofe.  Congrats.

[Double A]

O.P. on Rice vs. Inhofe

[tim huntzinger]

I think HT is correct to voice his belated displeasure in his Party's candidate.  If'n I were HT I would swallow (unless he spits) my misgivings and campaign vigorously for Rice.  If Rice were elected (inshallah!) the likelihood of a Demmie US legislature passing anything 'anti-immigrant' is quite remote.

The only way to change this whole dynamic is for registered partisans to begin voting straight-ticket for the other Party for the next six years.  That is the only thing that is going to get the Parties' attention.

[Hometown]

Well Tim, your logic is good and I have cast votes for individual Democrats simply to strengthen the party.  And you may have noticed during the primary how the Latin vote is a big issue in elections.  The Democrats have worked hard for years to capture the Latin vote.  But thanks to Henry, Edmonson and others including Rice, Latin people in Oklahoma associate racism with the Democrats.  There comes a point where continuing to cast votes for deeply flawed Democrats makes you an enabler.

I think Conan is on to something.  When the party runs junior politicians like Rice to oppose Inhofe, they are counting on losing.

[Red Arrow]

As I write this, Inhofe is only losing by 7 votes to 5 votes on the opinion poll elsewhere on this site.  Considering what I perceive to be an overwhelming democratic party affiliation on this forum, that amazes me.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Well Tim, your logic is good and I have cast votes for individual Democrats simply to strengthen the party.  And you may have noticed during the primary how the Latin vote is a big issue in elections.  The Democrats have worked hard for years to capture the Latin vote.  But thanks to Henry, Edmonson and others including Rice, Latin people in Oklahoma associate racism with the Democrats.  There comes a point where continuing to cast votes for deeply flawed Democrats makes you an enabler.

I think Conan is on to something.  When the party runs junior politicians like Rice to oppose Inhofe, they are counting on losing.

I don't think you can blame Henry for 1804. It was the baby of Rep Randy Terrill of Moore and it passed both the house and the senate with veto proof margins. The bill was backed the very right wing section of the Republican party using fear and hate radio to excite the masses. Right or wrong, at the time the bill passed it was wildly with the public. What was Henry supposed to do? Burn political capital and embarrass himself with a very unpopular veto that would instantly have been overridden? And the AG does not make laws, what does Edmondson have to do with the immigration bill at all?

And what exactly is it that makes Rice a weak candidate other than his Youth? He's a Harvard educated state Senator from the state's largest city running for US Senate. Substitute Harvard Divinity school with Harvard Law and you have Barack Obama's resume when he ran for US Senate from Illinois.

If Rice, who is mostly unknown outside of Oklahoma City is only polling down 51%-32% to Inhofe this early then he's got a real chance. That a sitting Senator with a huge war chest and decades in congress can only poll 51% against someone most of the state has never heard of is a very bad sign for Inhofe.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

As I write this, Inhofe is only losing by 7 votes to 5 votes on the opinion poll elsewhere on this site.  Considering what I perceive to be an overwhelming democratic party affiliation on this forum, that amazes me.

You're way overestimating the Democratic influence of this forum. There are a lot of Republicans, libertarians and good old-fashioned independents here, too.

[Hometown]

"What was Henry supposed to do? Burn political capital and embarrass himself with a very unpopular veto that would instantly have been overridden?"

What was Henry supposed to do?  The right thing.

It looks to me like Henry is a poll reader that brags about his missionary work.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

"What was Henry supposed to do? Burn political capital and embarrass himself with a very unpopular veto that would instantly have been overridden?"

What was Henry supposed to do?  The right thing.

It looks to me like Henry is a poll reader that brags about his missionary work.

I get the real impression that you voted for Ralph Nader.

[Hometown]

Life long Democrat that has always voted party line with the exception of one Republican.  Matt Fong v. Barbara Boxer

Also Democrat Party contributor.

Will not vote for Rice unless he opposes 1804.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Well Tim, your logic is good and I have cast votes for individual Democrats simply to strengthen the party.  And you may have noticed during the primary how the Latin vote is a big issue in elections.  The Democrats have worked hard for years to capture the Latin vote.  But thanks to Henry, Edmonson and others including Rice, Latin people in Oklahoma associate racism with the Democrats.  There comes a point where continuing to cast votes for deeply flawed Democrats makes you an enabler.

I think Conan is on to something.  When the party runs junior politicians like Rice to oppose Inhofe, they are counting on losing.

I don't think you can blame Henry for 1804. It was the baby of Rep Randy Terrill of Moore and it passed both the house and the senate with veto proof margins. The bill was backed the very right wing section of the Republican party using fear and hate radio to excite the masses. Right or wrong, at the time the bill passed it was wildly with the public. What was Henry supposed to do? Burn political capital and embarrass himself with a very unpopular veto that would instantly have been overridden? And the AG does not make laws, what does Edmondson have to do with the immigration bill at all?

And what exactly is it that makes Rice a weak candidate other than his Youth? He's a Harvard educated state Senator from the state's largest city running for US Senate. Substitute Harvard Divinity school with Harvard Law and you have Barack Obama's resume when he ran for US Senate from Illinois.

If Rice, who is mostly unknown outside of Oklahoma City is only polling down 51%-32% to Inhofe this early then he's got a real chance. That a sitting Senator with a huge war chest and decades in congress can only poll 51% against someone most of the state has never heard of is a very bad sign for Inhofe.

Not true about HB 1804.  Union flaks like Double A were also all over it.  They didn't get a veto-proof majority on this bill in both houses without a lot of Democrats signing on.  Call them closet DINO's or whatever, fact is, it took a lot of Dems to make it happen.

Rice doesn't have near the resume as Obama.  Rice has been a state Senator for all of about 18 months.  Obama had been in the Ill. Senate for 8 years when he moved up.  He also had experience in city ward politics and a not-so-distinguished career as a civil rights attorney.  

Rice is an upstart who spouts the most partisan talking points of the DNC, then says he's going to reach across the aisle in a bi-partisan fashion.  Re-read his comments, he's a moron trying to parlay a divinity degree into a $180K/year job with lifetime benefits.

Rice is going to get his donkey kicked in November and the DNC knows it.  Here's a couple of reasons- there are other key races in the House and Senate that need to be defended or taken much worse than a Senate seat from Ok.  Another is they want Inhofe around so they can use him as an example of what is wrong with conservatism to gain more seats in future elections.  The DNC loves Inhofe sound bites because they use it to rally the troops.

This is the only way you can possibly explain why Henry didn't get pressured to run for the Senate.  He's had very high approval from Reps and Dems alike.  I honestly think he's the type of guy who could have had David Boren-like appeal to state-wide voters of all political stripes.

And finally Swake, Rice isn't even that well-known in Oklahoma City.