Gore does it again!

[rwarn17588]

I wonder how many of my houses would be powered by Al Gore's.

According to my last AEP-PSO bill, I average 144 KWHs per month, and the average is still dropping a bit.

Not that I'm bragging or anything.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I wonder how many of my houses would be powered by Al Gore's.

According to my last AEP-PSO bill, I average 144 KWHs per month, and the average is still dropping a bit.

Not that I'm bragging or anything.

Man, that's less than most apartments around town.  What all modifications have you made? Where do you keep your thermostat?

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

Even if Algore cut his home's energy consumption by 50%, it would still be 10 times the average US household. For someone telling the rest of the world to sacrifice, he isn't setting a good example. He needs to buy a smaller home.

I have no doubt that he probably uses more energy than he should, the jet setting alone cant be a positive. As for the house however, he did try to make it more energy efficient so we will have to see how that went in time. But buying a different house wouldnt have been any better because its unlikely the next owners would have tried to make it energy efficient and thus in the end it would still be using more energy, so him staying there and trying to make it more efficient seems the logical thing to do.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I wonder how many of my houses would be powered by Al Gore's.

According to my last AEP-PSO bill, I average 144 KWHs per month, and the average is still dropping a bit.

Not that I'm bragging or anything.

Man, that's less than most apartments around town.  What all modifications have you made? Where do you keep your thermostat?

It's called solar panels on my roof. That's 90-plus percent of my power.

During most of the spring, fall and winter months, my KWHs have been as low as 7 and never more than 75. The KWHs will zoom to 400 during summer because the AC will draw a lot of power.

Thermo's at 78 in summer and 68 in winter.

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I would be interested to see what his consumption is next year.  I'm first in line in calling this pompous donkey a fraud and charlatan, yet if he had construction crews in and out, I could see a 10% increase for one year.

I'm also curious how much natural gas he burns at his estate.

Wow.... thank you, Gore hater.

Only the far right wing and Oklahoma's "Children of the Oil" have these insane kinds of feelings about Al Gore.

Remarkable.

Because I think he would have been a much better president than Bill Clinton was... and then there's the WORST PRESIDENT EVER... George W. Bush.

GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL.... CONAN IS A HOAX.  []

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

Even if Algore cut his home's energy consumption by 50%, it would still be 10 times the average US household. For someone telling the rest of the world to sacrifice, he isn't setting a good example. He needs to buy a smaller home.

I have no doubt that he probably uses more energy than he should, the jet setting alone cant be a positive. As for the house however, he did try to make it more energy efficient so we will have to see how that went in time. But buying a different house wouldnt have been any better because its unlikely the next owners would have tried to make it energy efficient and thus in the end it would still be using more energy, so him staying there and trying to make it more efficient seems the logical thing to do.

The house could be torn down to prevent anyone from using so much energy for a single family dwelling.  If there is historical significance to the home, it could be converted to apartments or condos. No one complains about the fuel mileage of a city bus because it carries many people. Almost everyone complains about the bad fuel mileage of a big SUV hauling one passenger and a bag of groceries, even if it gets better mileage than a city bus.  

I might respect his position on energy and global warming (oops! Climate Change) if he lived as he tells others to live.  He impresses me as if he were a medical doctor puffing on a cigarette, telling his patient to quit smoking.  

Even if I respected his position, whether or not I agreed with him would still be another issue.  To me he is just a politician with an agenda that keeps him in the limelight.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I wonder how many of my houses would be powered by Al Gore's.

According to my last AEP-PSO bill, I average 144 KWHs per month, and the average is still dropping a bit.

Not that I'm bragging or anything.

Man, that's less than most apartments around town.  What all modifications have you made? Where do you keep your thermostat?

It's called solar panels on my roof. That's 90-plus percent of my power.

During most of the spring, fall and winter months, my KWHs have been as low as 7 and never more than 75. The KWHs will zoom to 400 during summer because the AC will draw a lot of power.

Thermo's at 78 in summer and 68 in winter.

That's still less than half my KWH usage in the summer.  I use the same temp settings you do.  My house is about 1200 sq. ft. or so, but built around 1930 and not real air-tight. older central AC unit and a teen who lives in the house who leaves lights on everywhere.  I do use a programmable thermostat which helps some I'm sure.  I know I've got areas I could gain on to make the house more efficient.

How bad was the cost going in on the solar?

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

I wonder how many of my houses would be powered by Al Gore's.

According to my last AEP-PSO bill, I average 144 KWHs per month, and the average is still dropping a bit.

Not that I'm bragging or anything.

Man, that's less than most apartments around town.  What all modifications have you made? Where do you keep your thermostat?

It's called solar panels on my roof. That's 90-plus percent of my power.

During most of the spring, fall and winter months, my KWHs have been as low as 7 and never more than 75. The KWHs will zoom to 400 during summer because the AC will draw a lot of power.

Thermo's at 78 in summer and 68 in winter.

That's still less than half my KWH usage in the summer.  I use the same temp settings you do.  My house is about 1200 sq. ft. or so, but built around 1930 and not real air-tight. older central AC unit and a teen who lives in the house who leaves lights on everywhere.  I do use a programmable thermostat which helps some I'm sure.  I know I've got areas I could gain on to make the house more efficient.

How bad was the cost going in on the solar?

Lessee ... with the fed tax credits, it was about $11,000. And those panels will last for 25 years or more with no maintenance required. It's nice to have an electricity-generating appliance with no moving parts.

Other things I did that are much less costly:

-- Energy Star windows from Window World. The old windows leaked air like crazy.

-- Added a $450 (installed) solar attic fan.

-- Installed radiant barrier in the attic.

-- Compact fluorescent light bulbs everywhere.

-- I have two solar-powered motion-sensor lights in my back yard that work well. It's better than burning a so-called security light all night.

-- Made sure that when my roof was replaced four years ago, it was light-colored shingles, not dark. That makes a big difference in cooling.

-- Repainted the house from a dark color to light color, to help it not get so hot in the summertime.

-- Switched from an old electric water heater to a super-efficient Kenmore gas water heater.

-- Virtually all our appliances are Energy Stars, including the dishwasher, clothes washer and refrigerator. They're not much more expensive, and you'll get the added money you spent back in energy savings fairly quickly.

My central climate system is just a few years old, although we use it mostly for cooling. We have a wood stove for heat in winter, and we don't use it unless it drops below 40 at night. In that instance, central heat furnace will kick on a couple of times a night and that's it.

Our AC is only six years old and is a SEER 12. Not top-of-the-line, but not old enough to warrant replacing it. It keeps up very well even during the hottest of days. If your AC is more than 10 years old, I reckon that's what's jacking up your power bills. Anything under a SEER 10 I would replace; minimum standards right now for new ACs are SEER 13.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I would be interested to see what his consumption is next year.  I'm first in line in calling this pompous donkey a fraud and charlatan, yet if he had construction crews in and out, I could see a 10% increase for one year.

I'm also curious how much natural gas he burns at his estate.

Wow.... thank you, Gore hater.

Only the far right wing and Oklahoma's "Children of the Oil" have these insane kinds of feelings about Al Gore.

Remarkable.

Because I think he would have been a much better president than Bill Clinton was... and then there's the WORST PRESIDENT EVER... George W. Bush.

GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL.... CONAN IS A HOAX.  []

Syntax error:

It's not global warming any more.  It's "climate change" or "climate crisis."  

Just keep in mind for future posts. []

[RecycleMichael]

I got a state of the art solar clothes dryer.

I put up a clothesline.

[TheArtist]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I got a state of the art solar clothes dryer.

I put up a clothesline.

 Gosh I remember clothes lines  at my grandmothers house when I was a kid. Also remember the wash tub with the metal washing board. Would wear you out washing clothes like that. Then she had this clothes wringer that you stuck the shirt or whatever in between these 2 rollers and turned the crank and it would squeeze the dickens out of it to get the water out.

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I got a state of the art solar clothes dryer.

I put up a clothesline.

I hope for the people around you that you have a backup system.  Perhaps an inside clothesline powered by compact flourescent bulbs. []

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex


Only the far right wing and Oklahoma's "Children of the Oil" have these insane kinds of feelings about Al Gore.

I'm fairly confident other people share our view of man-bear-pig seeking Al Gore.
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Artist:  

You're excuse for him uses 20 times the power is "if he didn't live there, someone else would."  So why should anyone change anything?  If I didn't buy my SUV someone else would have.  If I didn't use energy keeping my house at 60F someone else would use the power or it would just be wasted.  I understand the basis for your statement, but in the end it doesn't work out.

The man uses more than 20 times the power I do, and tells me I use too much power.

Explain how that's not hypocritical.

[USRufnex]

It's a cartoon, CF... sorry you show more respect for a couple of overgrown teenagers drawing vulgar cartoons for a living than you do for... Al Gore... the Nobel Peace Prize..... the United Nations...  [xx(]

While you engage in defense of the oil industry... whether it's by opposing any possible windfall profits tax... or by demozing Al Gore... or by denying Global Climate change....

And decide to conveniently ignore this.

Big Oil's slick no-bid contracts will keep us mired in Iraq
Published on: 06/22/08
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/tucker/stories/2008/06/20/tucked_0622.html

Yet despite the vociferous denials, the four original partners of the Iraq Petroleum Co. (a misnomer, since all the companies are multinationals based in the U.S. or Western Europe) are about to receive contracts that allow them to service the fields in the country with the world's second-largest proven oil reserves. According to The New York Times, these are service contracts — paying the companies for their work — instead of the more lucrative licenses for oil deposits. But the contracts will give the global oil giants a leg up on more lucrative deals later on.

"It's been a long road, but the oil companies seem set to get much of what they have been seeking," said James Paul, executive director of the Global Policy Forum. "The Iraqi public is overwhelmingly opposed to this privatization of Iraqi oil, just like they are overwhelmingly opposed to the so-called security pact with the U.S."

Not that the opinions of Iraqis matter to everybody. There is a rather significant segment of Americans who believe that we have a God-given right to take what we want (though they'd never be so forthright in saying so). The United States is the world's remaining superpower; we have the biggest, baddest military. A belief in American exceptionalism leads some of us to think that we should stand astride the globe.

Writing in the London Review of Books in October 2007, American journalist Jim Holt observed that "the US may be 'stuck' exactly where Bush et al want it to be," in a country with as much as 300 billion barrels of undiscovered oil reserves.

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar


From the Tennessee Policy Institute.

Energy Guzzled by Al Gore's Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month

For Immediate Release: February 26, 2007

Hey, Gaspar.  Try posting something that isn't over a year old....