Questions about Barack Obama's Birth Certificate

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

It's funny, but all of those rumors are based around the idea that he's hiding something unpresidential or unamerican from the voting public.

Or they are all smaller pieces of one grand conspiracy theory:  that he's an Islamofascist sleeper agent who's duped much of the country into wanting him as president.  

Either way, they're pretty direct messages:  he's a traitor, and/or he's secretly one of our biggest enemies.

Just goes to show how desperate and fearful of Obama the Republican party has become now that they know they are losing the grip on Washington they thought they owned.  Long live KKKarl Rove.

[RecycleMichael]

McCain killed McAbel.

It's true. I read it in the bible.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us



Or they are all smaller pieces of one grand conspiracy theory:  that he's an Islamofascist sleeper agent who's duped much of the country into wanting him as president.  

Oh, that's just a conspiracy theory?  I gotta quit getting my news from variants of the National Enquirer. []

[Derailed]

OK, the original is on file and the certified copy is what you get.  My bad.

Why haven't they scanned his "certified copy" to his Fight the Smears page?

He probably was born in Hawaii but this issue could easly be resolved with a scanned copy of the certified birth certicate that at least looked official.  Since his father was from a foreign country I can see why people are curious.

That is what all the fuss is about.

[FOTD]

There is no "fuss" I am aware of. But I don't watch Fix News or listen to their tribal activities....BTW, stop watching Fox, it's designed for the low IQ, nonreaders of America.

[Derailed]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

There is no "fuss" I am aware of. But I don't watch Fix News or listen to their tribal activities....BTW, stop watching Fox, it's designed for the low IQ, nonreaders of America.

I must be too stupid to understand why your statement would have any validity.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Derailed

OK, the original is on file and the certified copy is what you get.  My bad.

Why haven't they scanned his "certified copy" to his Fight the Smears page?

He probably was born in Hawaii but this issue could easly be resolved with a scanned copy of the certified birth certicate that at least looked official.  Since his father was from a foreign country I can see why people are curious.

That is what all the fuss is about.

They HAVE scanned the certified copy, right here:  
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert.  
You say it doesn't look official--is this based upon some personal knowledge of Hawaiin birth certificates?  Do you have one?  Again, where is your proof that the birth certificate he offered is not entirely legitimate?  Other than right wing conspiracy blogs, whom with any authority has called into question the birth certificate available on his website?

I notice you still haven't proven that McCain doesn't eat babies.  Must be true.  I also think he's an alien.  Where is his birth certificate?  Why hasn't he made that available?

[Derailed]

The link above didn't work for me.  But if it did it would show the uncertified copy - one without the raised seal.  I added a link before to a birth certificate that has this seal for comparision.

This is a legitimate question which could easly be answered with a scanned copy of the "certified copy" showing the raised seal.  Also, Obama could authorize the records department of Hawaii to act as a third party to verify the authenticity of his birth certificate.  Then it would be a non-issue.

What's with the childish McCain bibical references? Is no one allowed to question anything from the left?  

Afterall, Obama didn't bat an eye when he broke a written promise to accept public financing which, despite all the name calling from the left, adds to the growing list of concerns about his character and judgement.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Derailed

The link above didn't work for me.  But if it did it would show the uncertified copy - one without the raised seal.  I added a link before to a birth certificate that has this seal for comparision.

This is a legitimate question which could easly be answered with a scanned copy of the "certified copy" showing the raised seal.  Also, Obama could authorize the records department of Hawaii to act as a third party to verify the authenticity of his birth certificate.  Then it would be a non-issue.

What's with the childish McCain bibical references? Is no one allowed to question anything from the left?  

Afterall, Obama didn't bat an eye when he broke a written promise to accept public financing which, despite all the name calling from the left, adds to the growing list of concerns about his character and judgement.

My references to McCain eating babies is no more ridiculous than your claims.  Again, other than your assertion and reference to a right wing websites, what proof do you have that Obama's birth certificate is not a certified copy?

Where is your evidence that all Hawaiin birth certificates must have a raised seal?  Yes, I know, your website has a picture of a single birthcertificate with a raised seal.  Poor Ms. Decosta--apparently she is the only one in all of Hawaii that has a birth certificate that can be used as an example.  Maybe her's is a fake.

How do you know that his doesn't have a seal, and that the seal is just not visible?

Again, cite some evidence, or stop spreading a stupid rumor.

By the way, did you check your website today?  Here is a quote:

quote:"I spoke to Ms. Okubo late Wednesday afternoon, and she said she had seen the version of Obama's certificate of live birth posted on the sites. While her office cannot verify the information on a form without the permission of the certificate holder (Obama), she said "the form is exactly the same" and it has 'all the components of a birth certificate' record issued by the state. In other words, she sees no reason to think the version posted on Obama's web site and Daily Kos is not genuine."

Any other ridiculous rumors you want to pass on?

[Derailed]

To me the truth is neither left or right. It is what it is and stands alone.

When a birth certificate is enbossed with the seal which certifies it - the paper actually gets depressed on both sides.  This depression helps identify the birth certificate as a certified copy.  The state of Hawaii only issues certified copies.  Is it possible it was certified on the back and the depression didn't show through?  The seal changes the paper by compression and some of that would have to show through to the other side.  When you blow up Obama's birth certificate there is no indication of this depression which is odd, to me.

This is a fact and not a rumor.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Derailed

To me the truth is neither left or right. It is what it is and stands alone.

When a birth certificate is enbossed with the seal which certifies it - the paper actually gets depressed on both sides.  This depression helps identify the birth certificate as a certified copy.  The state of Hawaii only issues certified copies.  Is it possible it was certified on the back and the depression didn't show through?  The seal changes the paper by compression and some of that would have to show through to the other side.  When you blow up Obama's birth certificate there is no indication of this depression which is odd, to me.

This is a fact and not a rumor.

Ok, you are really making me want to scream.  I am going to say this one more time, as simply as I can.  
HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT HAWAIIN BIRTH CERTIFICATES MUST HAVE A DEPRESSION FOR IT TO BE OFFICIAL?

Are you an expert on Hawaiin birth certificates?  Do you have any knowledge of what should and shouldn't be included in one?  Have you spoken to any Hawaiin officials that doubt the veracity of the certificate?  Can you answer any of my questions?

[joiei]

Derailed,  a few questions.  Does your birth certificate have an embossing?  What does it look like after it has been scanned into a computer?  

I went to the Obama Stop the Smears and the birth certificate was right there.

I did a little investigation and found out that the Israel Insider is on online website, not a published in hand paper that continues to spread unfounded rumors and misinformation that Barack Obama is Muslim.  The website is one of the providers of rightwing propaganda.  I would say conservative but I have too many friends who are conservative without being rightwing firebomb tossers and I owe them a lot more respect than any dispenser of falsehoods and lies.  By the way, from what I found the person who owns that website also deals in a jewish dating site and in a Kosher sex web site.  Now what misinformation could I make of that?
http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12918.htm

[FranklinTower]

Man!  Why does this topic have to come up during every election?    Don't you think that someone did a background check on Obama?

Of course he's a US citizen!

Goofy post!

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by FranklinTower

Man!  Why does this topic have to come up during every election?    Don't you think that someone did a background check on Obama?

Of course he's a US citizen!

Goofy post!

Might be because Obama's ahead in the polls right now?

The repubs have a lot to be worried about.  John McCain is just four more years of the same, IMO.  What kind of a guy who is running for president makes statments about having to remain in Iraq for 100 more years, even if it was theoretical?  With the unpopularity of the Iraq war and the fact that it's killed over 4000 of our great men and women, you'd think he'd just leave that one alone.

You almost have to ask for hazard pay if you want to be a top adviser to his campaign!