Dealing With Terrorists

[FOTD]

The ultimate hypocrisy?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4270844.ece

Reports are emerging that Bush White House broke with their (our) pledge not to deal with terrorists and they paid $20 Million ransom for U.S. Hostages in Colombia. "Neither the US nor Colombia immediately responded to the suggestions that they had paid to secure the hostages' release."

An interesting saga any way you look at it. Bet we got someone else or some other country to pay the money so it does not appear to be you and me who paid ransom to terrorists.

This devil's advocate is feeling patriotic!

[TheArtist]

Bush recently got 400 million "Presidential signing statement" to do some stuff in Iran. There was something about it on NPR the other day. Part of what is said that they are doing is funding and helping groups in Iran, that we qualify as being terrorist groups on the one hand because they have "attacked and harmed Americas interests" and despise us, but we are helping them in order to cause problems in Iran because they also dont like the leadership in Iran. Apparently "The enemy of my enemy is my friend... even if they are my enemy as well?"  Doesn't this type of thing usually just end up making things worse in the long run?  

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by TheArtist

Apparently "The enemy of my enemy is my friend... even if they are my enemy as well?"  Doesn't this type of thing usually just end up making things worse in the long run?  

Well I can tell you that that's why the Soviets lost Afghanistan.

And that's all I have to say about that.

[Ed W]

The Brits were there too:

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier."

Rudyard Kipling

[Rico]

Have a "Look".


The above was shot by one of the (faux) media on the helicopter....

Below a short read of the comments made in regards to this "fortuitous" turn of events.


Behind the Colombia Hostage Rescue -- Todd Chretien
   

THE REPUBLICAN presidential nominee visits Colombia to meet with President Alvaro Uribe (virtually the only South American leader who has a kind word to say to him) on the very day that the Colombian military--bloated with billions of dollars in equipment provided by the U.S. government--pulls off a major public relations coup by rescuing former presidential candidate Íngrid Betancourt, three American mercenaries and a dozen more hostages from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

But it's all a big coincidence--at least according to crack investigative journalist Judith Bumiller, traveling with McCain for the New York Times.

"The timing of the rescue, which occurred while Mr. McCain was in Colombia, was in many ways a fortuitous turn of events for a presidential candidate who is using a three-day trip to South America and Mexico to try to show that he is a more agile foreign policy hand than his Democratic competitor, Senator Barack Obama," Bumiller wrote.

"Although the timing of the rescue was a coincidence and Mr. McCain's trip to Colombia had nothing to do with it, the event nonetheless put him in the middle of classified talks about covert operations with the head of another government."

"Fortuitous" indeed! In fact, the Bush administration helped plan the operation and provided unspecified material support. And Uribe even briefed McCain (and his traveling companion, Sen. Joseph Lieberman) on plans for the raid before it took place.

There is even speculation that Uribe was able to pull off the rescue--in which soldiers impersonated FARC guerrillas--precisely because the French government was in the process of securing Betancourt's release and had been in negotiations with FARC commanders.

Whether or not this turns out to be the case, it stretches the bounds of credulity to believe that Bush did not tip off McCain to the impending operation, allowing him to don his Navy cap and strike a pose on a Columbian anti-narcotics military vessel, while basking in Uribe's international media limelight.


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[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

Have a "Look".


The above was shot by one of the (faux) media on the helicopter....

Below a short read of the comments made in regards to this "fortuitous" turn of events.


Behind the Colombia Hostage Rescue -- Todd Chretien
   

THE REPUBLICAN presidential nominee visits Colombia to meet with President Alvaro Uribe (virtually the only South American leader who has a kind word to say to him) on the very day that the Colombian military--bloated with billions of dollars in equipment provided by the U.S. government--pulls off a major public relations coup by rescuing former presidential candidate Íngrid Betancourt, three American mercenaries and a dozen more hostages from the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).

But it's all a big coincidence--at least according to crack investigative journalist Judith Bumiller, traveling with McCain for the New York Times.

"The timing of the rescue, which occurred while Mr. McCain was in Colombia, was in many ways a fortuitous turn of events for a presidential candidate who is using a three-day trip to South America and Mexico to try to show that he is a more agile foreign policy hand than his Democratic competitor, Senator Barack Obama," Bumiller wrote.

"Although the timing of the rescue was a coincidence and Mr. McCain's trip to Colombia had nothing to do with it, the event nonetheless put him in the middle of classified talks about covert operations with the head of another government."

"Fortuitous" indeed! In fact, the Bush administration helped plan the operation and provided unspecified material support. And Uribe even briefed McCain (and his traveling companion, Sen. Joseph Lieberman) on plans for the raid before it took place.

There is even speculation that Uribe was able to pull off the rescue--in which soldiers impersonated FARC guerrillas--precisely because the French government was in the process of securing Betancourt's release and had been in negotiations with FARC commanders.

Whether or not this turns out to be the case, it stretches the bounds of credulity to believe that Bush did not tip off McCain to the impending operation, allowing him to don his Navy cap and strike a pose on a Columbian anti-narcotics military vessel, while basking in Uribe's international media limelight.


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I am so sure that the democrats would NEVER stoop to such shenanigans if given the chance.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

--at least according to crack investigative journalist Judith Bumiller, traveling with McCain for the New York Times.

So Judith Bumiller covers the cocaine beat for NYT, yes???

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The editor on that article left that wide open for comment.[]

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

The Brits were there too:

"When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier."

Rudyard Kipling

Oh, good quote. It's awful, but it's a good quote.