Jerry Giordano arrested for DUI, Hit and Run?

[tulsarufflebutt]

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982
He might be a great journalist, and do alot of things in the community, but he shouldn't get a free pass on these boards or anywhere else for that matter, simply because of two aspects of a person's life.

WHAT-evaaaaaah.  With a mugshot like THAT, Jerry gets the skate.  

Cute blondes like Kristen Glover, NO.  Lori Fullbright, NO.  Good thing she's quit with breaking into a SCHOOL full of kids.

I'm with Double A.  Stick it to the cute blondes.  []

[tulsarufflebutt]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

Originally posted by MH2010.
I think it would be neat if he would allow a camera crew to go with him during his whole DUI process (court, talking to his insurance to see how much it will go up or if they cancel his coverage, finding rides to work or paying a whole lot of money to get a breath device put on his vehicle, DUI school ect.)

Great IDEA for his community service!  I hope his judge and KTUL are taking NOTES.

Hey, if KTUL allows Bill Mitchell to spill his guts about the heavy smoking, why not let Jerry keep his job and spill his guts about the heavy drinking.  Could be great for sweeps season, ESPECIALLY if DPS nabs DL and the judge orders bike duty.  I'd CERTAINLY watch Inside TULSA Edition.  []

[tulsarufflebutt]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

.08 gets you in BIG trouble.  I believe the limit for lesser trouble is .04.  Basically, anything more than one drink will get the average sized person in trouble, if caught.

EXACTLY why you should NEVER blow.  Why give up the goods?  Make 'em PROVE it.[]

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by stu8749

Come on! Stop trying to give this guy a break. Trust me, he ain't a very nice guy... matter of fact he is a JERK! "With a Capital J"  I took his Speech Class a TCC, and he is one of the most arrogant son of a gun's out there today. I'm awesome at writing speeches and givin' them too. But, I got a B from him.  Everyday he called out students in the class and picked on them, it was so bad.  He even made a girl cry, I swear to God, he called her fat.   He must of gotten off on making people feel small.
When I saw his mug shot on the news, I was laughing so much I became to cry.  O' how the mighty have fallen.  I think he deserves whatever is coming to him, but for me, I hope he gets the needle!

Geez, a teacher has to give me lower than a B before I want them executed... C at least.

[cannon_fodder]

#1)  Tulsarufflebutt - Paul, you already have 3 other log ins.  How many do you need?

#2)  Refusing to blow has consequences too.

You have the right to refuse:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=82947

But doing so is the automatic loss of your license  for up to 3 years:
http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=440141

Refusal will bring an assumption of guilt for license revocation (same as failing the test, it is revoked) as well as a DUI charge (BAC > .08).  You have implied consent by driving on public roads in Oklahoma.  So by refusing, you are revoking that consent and must face the consequences.   If you are stopped and requested to take the test and informed that refusing will result in lose of license, the State has the beeline to taking away your license.  

While on the subject, never take a field sobriety test.  When given in laboratory conditions (for evaluation purposes) the officer's guessed correctly 65% of the time.  So 45% of the time they were wrong WITHOUT a suspicion of intoxication (or they wouldn't request the test).  There is no Oklahoma penalty (that I am aware of) for refusal.  

quote: The following people may be better served by refusing the test. You should understand that a refusal could trigger a suspension of your Oklahoma driving privileges for 6 months or longer:

   * If you are involved in a collision, especially if serious injuries or death are involved,
   * Persons who have been convicted of one or more prior DUI offenses within the past 10 years,
   * Persons who may have any illegal substance in their system,
   * People under age

http://www.edgelawfirm.com/drivers.license/drivers.rights

Generally, I have been told to take the test and worry about defeating it later.  Refusing to take the tests allows a presumption of guilt as well as telling the jury you refused so you must be guilty (can't do that with any other crime, where you have the right to remain silent).  Perhaps opinions differ - I'm not expert in the area.

DUI is a bit of a witch hunt.  Clearly driving drunk is a bad idea and dangerous, but you are guilty until proven innocent, the court costs are higher than nearly anything else, and the punishment doesn't usually fit the crime.  The firm I linked above (which has the most clear website I found in a brief search) has an interesting list of things that are different in DUI cases - guilty until innocent and what-not:
http://www.edgelawfirm.com/dui.dwi.facts/constitution.limitations

Per this guy - just like any other.  It appears he made a stupid decision to drive while drunk.  We don't kick out legislators for drunk driving, we elect them to the white house, they coach all over the nation... why not give the news?  His ability to deliver some fluff piece on how hot it is probably won't be effected by whatever he does on a Friday night.

One more complaint, a guy loses their CDL for a DUI.  That seems harsh for a truck driver, cop, post officer worker, delivery guy etc.  Taking away their livelihood for a dumb decision on personal time.  Second offense - sure.  Bah.

/I don't drink and drive or even come close, no convictions of DUI ever, so my view is not based on personal bias.  And again, I only know what I've been told about DUI law.

[Hometown]

Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend.  Talk about a town in search of a life.

[AngieB]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend.  Talk about a town in search of a life.

If it hadn't been covered by the media, there'd be cries of coverup.

[Hometown]

We thought we detected a nervous twitch when his co-anchor read the story.  Luckily he had (I guess) been given the day off.

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

Believe it or not this was the big breaking news story in Tulsa, Oklahoma this past weekend.  Talk about a town in search of a life.

Today's TW front page was about fireflys.

[OkieDiva]

There but for the grace of God go um, most of us? Driving under the influence is reckless, dangerous and shows an utter lack of respect for life - and I'd hazard a guess to say most of us have probably done it at one time or another in our lives. Most likely, the difference between Jerry and us isn't that we've never made a reckless choice... rather, the difference is that we weren't caught. And perhaps, too, we realized the terrible consequences our actions could produce at a younger age than Jerry.

[Sardonicus Rex]

quote:Originally posted by HazMatCFO



With a DUI is your license automatically suspended and if so, for how long? Jerry is not going to be much use to Channel 8 as a reporter without a valid driver's license.

His license will be suspended for 6 months whether or not he's actually convicted of DUI. It gets suspended any time you blow over the limit or refuse the test, no matter what goes on your record.

He may be able to show he needs to drive to earn a living, in which case he might qualify for one of those alcohol interlock devices while his license is suspended. Or, since TV reporters always have a photojournalist in tow, perhaps his camera operator will have to drive him around everywhere.

If this is his first offense, it wouldn't surprise me if he gets off with a plea deal down to reckless driving if he satisfactorily completes everything the judge orders. It's a fairly common practice for first-timers, I'm pretty sure. But it sure won't be cheap.

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

While on the subject, never take a field sobriety test.  When given in laboratory conditions (for evaluation purposes) the officer's guessed correctly 65% of the time.  So 45% of the time they were wrong WITHOUT a suspicion of intoxication (or they wouldn't request the test).  There is no Oklahoma penalty (that I am aware of) for refusal.

That's consistent with what friendly cops tell me, as well as what I've read about off-duty cops pulled over outside their jurisdiction.

From this post and MH2010's observation on how little it actually takes to fail a breathaliar, im getting the impression DUI is more a cash cow than a public safety crisis.
While I believe that dangerous drivers shouldnt be on the road, it seems some purity was lost in the zeal to go after anything alcohol-related.

And though I havent been through the paces myself, it does seem that the whole DUI scene goes against the rules of our legal system -- perhaps for revenue, or just to placate the exaggerated morals of the powerful.

The Mayors daughter seems to have survived the ordeal without the total collapse of order, maybe we just make too much of this altogether.

[OUGrad05]

I take drinking and driving very seriously.  Two friends of mine were killed in high school and another is a parapalegic.  

However, if he was .08 that is a tough call, I think the legal limit is .08 is it not?  Which means the guy had a beer or two at dinner?  

Also are there any links with the story as opposed to speculation?

[inteller]

hell, to get .08 on okie beer he would have had to drink a lot of them, which means he was probably inebriated by water more than anything else.[}:)]

[FOTD]

"Well I gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do
I'll start to spend my money callin' everybody honey
And I'll wind up singin' the blues
I'll spend my whole paycheck on some old wreck
And brother I can name you a few
Well I gotta get drunk and I sure do dread it
Cuz I know just what I'm gonna do

I gotta get drunk, I just can't stay sober
There's a lot of good people in town
Who like to see me holler, see me spend my dollar
And I wouldn't dream of lettin' 'em down
There's a lot of doctors tell me
That I'd better start slowing it down
But there's more old drunks than there are old doctors
So I guess we'd better have another round"

Willie Nelson (another FOTD)