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City Council - Driller Vote on July 10

Started by PonderInc, July 07, 2008, 01:35:22 PM

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MDepr2007

But why all the BS pushing it.
Everyone just about wanted it downtown, that wasn't in question. For some reason all the false 2025 promises for downtown resurfaced. Wonder what it'll be downtown needs in 2 more years[:X]

dsjeffries

#76
Something interesting I found while examining the proposed siteplan is that the Mickey Mantle Museum isn't just merely mentioned (i.e., "it would surely fit somewhere in the plan"), but instead is actually given space directly connected to the stadium.  I'm assuming this means that talks have gone well with the Mantle family... and I am really excited about our prospects.  Things are beginning to line up and fall in place.

John Hope Franklin Reconciliation & Park? Check.
BOk Center? Check.
Drillers Stadium? Check.
Mickey Mantle Museum? Maybe.
Mathews Warehouse Gallery Conversion? Check.
KOTV/Griffin Comm. HQ? Check.
120 Lofts & Retail? Check.
DTU dead? Check.

Things are looking up! It seems like the critical mass situation has or is just about to occur... Downtown Tulsa 2012 will be much different than Downtown Tulsa 2008.


Look on the key for the location of the (proposed) Mantle Museum (or restaurant, if the museum doesn't go through).

booWorld

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Originally posted by dsjeffries


DTU dead? Check.



Don't count on that yet.

MDepr2007

Do the parking lots pay the new tax ? Will they start charging to park 24 hours a day to make up the differance? Are the days of free parking and low baseball ticket prices soon to be gone?

Considering the squabble over the L E D billboards , how will the council handle the stadium lights next to the highway?

SXSW

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Looking at the site plan, where will the main entrance be? I'd assume behind home plate at Brady & Elgin but can't tell for sure.  And I assume general parking is located at the lots of OSU-Tulsa 2 blocks to the north?  However I guess the idea would be to park anywhere you can in and around the area and walk to games, which is great.  Less in the way of park, go to game, then drive home immediately after...

If the ballpark can attract new buildings and businesses to those "purple boxes" around it that area could be really amazing with a more urban feel than anywhere else in Tulsa.  I can only hope that the ballpark, Mickey Mantle Museum (a really cool idea), Franklin Center, 120 Brady Lofts, and associated development will push OSU-Tulsa just to the north to build new buildings and increase their enrollment, and to finally add on-campus student housing.

The way I see it Elgin becomes one of the most important streets downtown with this plan.  It effectively connects OSU-Tulsa at the north end to the ballpark/Brady district, the future commuter rail station, and then right through the heart of Blue Dome all the way down to 11th.  One thing that could really complete that whole area and the Elgin corridor would be a downtown movie theater right where that vacant warehouse and parking lot are at 1st and Elgin.  Something like an urban Warren Theater there would be a huge draw from all over the Metro.
 

RecycleMichael

At the new Busch Stadium in St. Louis, most fans enter gate one near the right field foul pole.

Lots of ballparks have multiple entrances without a main gate.
Power is nothing till you use it.

RecycleMichael

I think the days of close by free parking for Driller games is probably gone.

If there was one thing the county does well at the Fairgrounds, it is parking.

Why, they even moved other stuff out of there and build a parking lot just this past year.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Gaspar

I'd love for this to happen but that site plan looks rushed for such an expensive project.  I'd like to see more time and thought go into the design.  

If it were a 15 or 20 million dollar project this would be in line, but for 60 million, we should get a very well thought out, unique design.

I guess this is just very preliminary.  Gotta get something in front of people fast before the emotion dies.


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Gold

Who the heck was this Miss Goodwin?  Related to the attorney?  There was more crazy in that speech then Medlock interviewing Paul Tay at the circus.

TulsaSooner

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Originally posted by Gold

Who the heck was this Miss Goodwin?  Related to the attorney?  There was more crazy in that speech then Medlock interviewing Paul Tay at the circus.



Pure gold, Gold.

[:D]

chlfan

Did anyone record this? Maybe they can post it on YouTube and post a link????
Onward through the fog.

TURobY

I can't believe I sat there for 5-and-a-half hours!

[:O]
---Robert

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I think the days of close by free parking for Driller games is probably gone.

If there was one thing the county does well at the Fairgrounds, it is parking.

Why, they even moved other stuff out of there and build a parking lot just this past year.



sounds to me like they're going to get a heck of a lot of an opportunity to do real well at it again.  [:D]

SXSW

HOK has already done conceptual design for the stadium so I would guess they would get the go ahead to start schematic design now that it's passed.  If that is so then we should expect a contractor to be selected after design development drawings are finished sometime this fall/winter and construction to start soon after.  With the way the city works though I'd be surprised to see anything really start before spring or even next summer.  I do hope they use that master plan and enforce urban design requirements in the area.  I would also hope the new district around the ballpark will be getting new lighting, sidewalks, street trees, etc. similar to what they've done in other parts of downtown.
 

TheArtist

Well this is great news. Who knows, I may go crazy and actually go to my first baseball game lol. [8D]

Yes, at best it will likely be early spring before they break ground and start construction. Would be nice if the 120 loft project got started before then though. Boy that developer just got handed a nice bit of good luck. That ground level retail and restaurant space will be prime location.

"When you only have two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other."-Chinese proverb. "Arts a staple. Like bread or wine or a warm coat in winter. Those who think it is a luxury have only a fragment of a mind. Mans spirit grows hungry for art in the same way h