Obama: Agent of Change AND Statesman?

[akupetsky]

I think it's possible, and this "world tour" helps to show it.  What do you think?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by akupetsky

I think it's possible, and this "world tour" helps to show it.  What do you think?

Don't matter. This is Dumbf*ckistan.
Besides, isn't that guy a Muslim?[]

[FOTD]

The Devil is seeing red turn to blue.....Oh No!

Tell your buddies to be afraid.

"I'm scared" the rant from the right.

Gallup: Obama Opens His Largest Lead
Sen. Barack Obama now leads Sen. John McCain among national registered voters by a 49% to 40%, according to the latest Gallup Tracking Poll.

"The margin, coincident with the extensive U.S. news coverage of Obama's foreign tour, is the largest for Obama over McCain measured since Gallup began tracking the general election horserace in March."

Landslide coming! Watch out.....

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by akupetsky

I think it's possible, and this "world tour" helps to show it.  What do you think?

Barack Hussein Obama is the Democrat nominee because:

Positives:

1)  Excellent political campaign organization, and raised LOTS of money.
2)  Very eloquent speaker in a controlled, re-hearsed forum.  Less agile in a more demanding Q&A forum.
3)  Very facile press.  In fact, they seem to fawn over him.  They love him. That helped elect Bill Clinton.  It's helping Obama, too.
4)  Implicit racial message just below the surface of many of his speeches:

Whitey will be forgiven for past sins if we vote for Obama.

His negatives:

1) No measurable track record as legislator.
2) Strange name for an American President.
3) Politically positioned to the LEFT of Teddy Kennedy.
4) Has been a member of a large, Black Liberation Theology Church for over 20 years.  Their central tenet and core belief:

BLAME all his race's problems on the Whites.

4) His spiritual mentor and pastor for the past 20 years is a race-baiting Demagogue.  

Can't you just imagine the impact when the video surfaces of Obama applauding in the audience at one of Rev. Wright's racist rants.....?

Ouch!

[Nik]

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Back to names:  It's believed by political consultants that a simple, two-syllable first name, and a simple two-syllable last name are the best combination for a political candidate.

Richard Nixon

Lyndon Johnson

Hubert Humphrey

Jimmy Carter

Adolph Hitler

David Boren

Simple, and easy to remember.

One negative of former state candidate Ernest Istook had in his race against Governor Lazybones Henry was his goofy name.

Former Senator Gary Hart had his father legally change their name from Hartspence to Hart, on Gary's urging while he was still in high school.  Gary had ambitions.......

Well, until he took a 3-hour cruise on the good ship "Monkey Business", with a woman who was NOT his wife.

William Jefferson Clinton's REAL name until he was almost out of high school was:

William Jefferson BLYTHE.  

[RecycleMichael]

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Theodore Roosevelt...

all have the same syllable names as Barack Obama.

If two syllable first and two syllable second is preferred...I will call you Friendly BearPoop.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
James Madison
Theodore Roosevelt...

all have the same syllable names as Barack Obama.

If two syllable first and two syllable second is preferred...I will call you Friendly BearPoop.

Kathy Taylor?

Susan Savage?  (Note:  NOT Susan Hall, her legal, married name - at the time).

and, I didn't say it was preferred.

POLITICAL CONSULTANTS said the Da-da, Da-da rhythm of two simple names are best for a candidate.

In the English language, of course.

[Nik]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Schwarzer that they can't vote for.

[]

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]

Lose/lose for Barack in this instance.  He was told not to go by the Pentagon.

Looks like we'll have a new party in office come November.  McCain is looking more and more brain-dead every week.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]

Do racism much?  First "greedy Jews" when you were ranting about Kaiser.  Now "Swartzer" referring to Obama.

Is there a reason the forum brass allow you to remain on this board?

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]

Do racism much?  First "greedy Jews" when you were ranting about Kaiser.  Now "Swartzer" referring to Obama.

Is there a reason the forum brass allow you to remain on this board?

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear


And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]

Do racism much?  First "greedy Jews" when you were ranting about Kaiser.  Now "Swartzer" referring to Obama.

Is there a reason the forum brass allow you to remain on this board?

I have to agree.  This is getting pretty tiresome.  When does FB finally trip the sensors?

[Nik]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]

Feel free to not absorb everything you're being force-fed by the McCain campaign.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/28/1228137.aspx

quote: NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports that there was never a plan for Obama to take the press to Landstuhl, despite the claim by McCain folks and others. The plan was to go with his military aide, retired General Scott Gration. The Pentagon said Gration was off-limits because he had joined the campaign -- violating rules that it not be a political stop.  Obama had gone to see wounded troops in Iraq earlier in the week, without even confirming he'd been there. No press, no pictures. He has done the same when he goes to Walter Reed -- never any press.