Obama: Agent of Change AND Statesman?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

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FB crosses line of acceptable yiddush.

FB, the devil advocates you go clean your white robes and your cone head white hood that matches the robes.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

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FB crosses line of acceptable yiddush.

FB, the devil advocates you go clean your white robes and your cone head white hood that matches the robes.

Auf deutsch, the term simply means "black person".

It's not derogatory.

Were you thinking of Schvantzer?

That's naughty.

[FOTD]

WRONG. The devil will look past your mistake. It's used as the "n" word but in yiddush.

Quit using it. The devil will give you the pitchfork in the rectum otherwise.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

WRONG. The devil will look past your mistake. It's used as the "n" word but in yiddush.

Quit using it. The devil will give you the pitchfork in the rectum otherwise.

You mean it's Yiddish, too?

Oy vay!

Since he was talking to the GERMANS, to them he is a Schwarzer.

Auf Deutsch:

"Black person".

That's all.

Schwarz is the german word for Black.

Like, Schwarzwald = Black Forest.

Where they make the wunderbar Cuckoo Clocks.

Oh, those are made in China now?

Sorry.

[FOTD]

Don't go playing Nazi.....

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Don't go playing Nazi.....

ALARUM!

Alle ist verloren!

Ein Schwartzer U.S. President?

Scheise!

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Don't go playing Nazi.....

ALARUM!

Alle ist verloren!

Ein Schwartzer U.S. President?

Scheise!

Being glib does not make it funny, it just shows that you think you got away with being a racist and not being censored for it.  

"free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for"  

Why is he a swartzer (negro) they can't vote for instead of being a presidential candidate they cannot vote for?

You truly have shot what little credibility you may have possessed on this board whether you get censored or not.



 

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by okiebybirth

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Don't go playing Nazi.....

ALARUM!

Alle ist verloren!

Ein Schwartzer U.S. President?

Scheise!

Being glib does not make it funny, it just shows that you think you got away with being a racist and not being censored for it.  

"free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for"  

Why is he a swartzer (negro) they can't vote for instead of being a presidential candidate they cannot vote for?

You truly have shot what little credibility you may have possessed on this board whether you get censored or not.

Yep.

The term F.B. used is under WordIQ's "List of Ethnic Slurs."

From the site:

"The key here is that the person using the slur cares so little about the target, that the person's actual background is irrelevant. The motivation for using an ethnic slur is often racism or bigotry."

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/List_of_ethnic_slurs

[akupetsky]

quote:

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Swartzer that they can't vote for.

[]



Feel free to not absorb everything you're being force-fed by the McCain campaign.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/28/1228137.aspx

quote: NBC's Andrea Mitchell reports that there was never a plan for Obama to take the press to Landstuhl, despite the claim by McCain folks and others. The plan was to go with his military aide, retired General Scott Gration. The Pentagon said Gration was off-limits because he had joined the campaign -- violating rules that it not be a political stop.  Obama had gone to see wounded troops in Iraq earlier in the week, without even confirming he'd been there. No press, no pictures. He has done the same when he goes to Walter Reed -- never any press. [/quote]

[/quote]
Yeah, this was a trap, and Obama dealt with it correctly.  Because this portion of the trip was being paid for out of campaign funds, the Pentagon (and/or McCain) would have called it "political" no matter who went with Obama.

[FOTD]

FB....nutsy or not see?

[Conan71]

FB, you used to at least seem somewhat relevant on the forum.  Now you are just a charicature.

Your take on "swartzer" is very glib.

You have said "n****r" in yiddush, not "black person".  You are wrong.

Your characterization of George Kaiser as a "greedy jew" was all any of us needed to know about your leanings.

Go play blind man somewhere else.  

You've worn out your welcome here.

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

WRONG. The devil will look past your mistake. It's used as the "n" word but in yiddush.

Quit using it. The devil will give you the pitchfork in the rectum otherwise.

You mean it's Yiddish, too?

Oy vay!

Since he was talking to the GERMANS, to them he is a Schwarzer.

Auf Deutsch:

"Black person".

That's all.

Schwarz is the german word for Black.

Like, Schwarzwald = Black Forest.

Where they make the wunderbar Cuckoo Clocks.

Oh, those are made in China now?

Sorry.

It's sad . ..

when you have to stoop to racial slurs . . .

for attention.

Especially when no one thinks you're funny.

Poor FB.

[}:)]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

WRONG. The devil will look past your mistake. It's used as the "n" word but in yiddush.

Quit using it. The devil will give you the pitchfork in the rectum otherwise.

You mean it's Yiddish, too?

Oy vay!

Since he was talking to the GERMANS, to them he is a Schwarzer.

Auf Deutsch:

"Black person".

That's all.

Schwarz is the german word for Black.

Like, Schwarzwald = Black Forest.

Where they make the wunderbar Cuckoo Clocks.

Oh, those are made in China now?

Sorry.

It's sad . ..

when you have to stoop to racial slurs . . .

for attention.

Especially when no one thinks you're funny.

Poor FB.

[}:)]

It's merely a missed opportunity for Forum Participants to Increase Their Word Power, dumkopf.

I tend to think that Obama is viewed as a curiosity item in Europe, hence the enthusiastic reception.

Plus free beer and rock bands thrown-in.

Imagine the D-Fest crowd with Free Beer.

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
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It's merely a missed opportunity for Forum Participants to Increase Their Word Power, dumkopf.

I tend to think that Obama is viewed as a curiosity item in Europe, hence the enthusiastic reception.

Plus free beer and rock bands thrown-in.

Imagine the D-Fest crowd with Free Beer.

'
Everytime FB posts something hateful, we all lose IQ points and angels cry.

I didn't know D-fest brought people in from Europe.  But hey . . . whatever helps downtown, right Bear?  Cool to see the community doing something like this.

There's some pretty good video on the World site . . . you missed out, Bear.  http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/blogs/weblog.aspx?column_id=29#2790

Obama is more than a curiosity item.  From pretty much every younger person I've talked to over there over the years, he's exactly what the rest of the world wants . . . a charismatic leader who really has the best intentions for the U.S. and the world.

Poor FB.

[:X]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Gold

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
[
It's merely a missed opportunity for Forum Participants to Increase Their Word Power, dumkopf.

I tend to think that Obama is viewed as a curiosity item in Europe, hence the enthusiastic reception.

Plus free beer and rock bands thrown-in.

Imagine the D-Fest crowd with Free Beer.

'
Everytime FB posts something hateful, we all lose IQ points and angels cry.

I didn't know D-fest brought people in from Europe.  But hey . . . whatever helps downtown, right Bear?  Cool to see the community doing something like this.

There's some pretty good video on the World site . . . you missed out, Bear.  http://www.tulsaworld.com/webextra/blogs/weblog.aspx?column_id=29#2790

Obama is more than a curiosity item.  From pretty much every younger person I've talked to over there over the years, he's exactly what the rest of the world wants . . . a charismatic leader who really has the best intentions for the U.S. and the world.

Poor FB.

[:X]

FB had no idea he had such power:

Lower I.Q.'s and make ANGELS cry?

Sounds more like my bigger, powerful cousins, the Kamchatka Brown Bear.

Those big boys can weigh up to 1,500 pounds.

They reportedly ate two Russian miners last week.

Send more miners; the last ones were delicious!