What Kind Of Moderation Is This

[MDepr2007]

A moderator locked this topic but left it up even though there is no usefullness in it to most.
http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10820

Is there a hidden agenda from the moderator by leaving the post up? Is this normal here or does it depend more on whom the post is about?

[cannon_fodder]

1) I've never been on a forum that appreciates public discussion of moderation practices.  Expect this post to be locked soon.  Just my guess...

2) At the bottom of the post the Moderator gave an explanation.  I assume (s)he left it up as a public warning.  It's rare for any threads around here but spam to just disappear from what I have seen.
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For a forum that allows discussion of religion, politics, and abortion; the Moderation is amazingly sparse.  Medlock has an account here and I do not recall seeing any of this posts Moderated in red.  Generally when a thread is locked only a few more people will view it.  In this instance I would suspect the person who posted it would read it and get the message, and at some point Medlock would hear about it and still be able to read it.

I guess what I'm saying, is where does the conspiracy come into play?  [edit]Unless threatening to lock the user and calling the post non-constructive is a compliment.  I'm guessing the post would be removed if Medlock or some other involved party requested it (I requested a post with my really real name in it be removed a while back, and it was).[/edit]

[Conan71]

Locked threads generally don't seem to disappear.  They eventually scroll off the page in a few days.  There was one point a couple of years ago threads were being deleted which really pissed off a lot of people.

I guess you can have your pick, outright censorship, or a moderator enforcing forum policy and making an example out of it to keep others from doing the same thing.

I don't detect some sort of agenda, that's pretty much the way I've observed them doing it on here for some time now.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

A moderator locked this topic but left it up even though there is no usefullness in it to most.
http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10820

Is there a hidden agenda from the moderator by leaving the post up? Is this normal here or does it depend more on whom the post is about?

Being a forum mod myself, it's likely it was left up for other posters to see what NOT to do on a forum.

[inteller]

the only problem is his point and attacks were lame.

[HoneySuckle]

This is a pretty easy going, tolerant forum and I see nothing wrong with locking and leaving a thread.  It happens all the time on other forums, so what's the big deal?[]

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by HoneySuckle

This is a pretty easy going, tolerant forum and I see nothing wrong with locking and leaving a thread.  It happens all the time on other forums, so what's the big deal?[]

Why lock it then ?

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by HoneySuckle

This is a pretty easy going, tolerant forum and I see nothing wrong with locking and leaving a thread.  It happens all the time on other forums, so what's the big deal?[]

Why lock it then ?

Threads are locked on most forums because the thread has gotten out of hand and staff wants to keep them from getting any worse. Just because police break up a domestic dispute doesn't mean they grant an annulment.

[cannon_fodder]

quote:The Moderator wrote
No Sugar Please, you apparently joined this forum with the intention to personally attack other members of the forum and Tulsa Community. If you have problems with Chris Medlock or Michael Bates, I suggest you call them directly and discuss those problems. This forum is not the appropriate place for your dispute.

Consider this a warning.

You are in violation of forum guidelines and you will be locked out if you persist in personal attacks on this forum.

This thread is now locked. Your ability to post will be locked out as well if you make another personal attack. We welcome new members and their views, but the purpose of your visit here has been anything but constructive so far.

That's a pretty clear explanation.

Is your problem that thread with no substance but for personal attacks was locked, or that it was not deleted - because it appears you are changing the story.  The Moderation on TulsaNow is generally pretty light.  Unsupported attacks on public figures degrade discussion and can even lead to lawsuits against the site (doubtful, but COULD).

The thread wasn't an attack IMHO, but I could see why (s)he locked it down and explained why.  Which is far better than many forums where threads just disappear.  

It seems odd that you are worried about this at all.  Do you have a personal connection in this or something?

[edit]fixed the quotes[/edit]

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

quote:The Moderator wrote
No Sugar Please, you apparently joined this forum with the intention to personally attack other members of the forum and Tulsa Community. If you have problems with Chris Medlock or Michael Bates, I suggest you call them directly and discuss those problems. This forum is not the appropriate place for your dispute.

Consider this a warning.

You are in violation of forum guidelines and you will be locked out if you persist in personal attacks on this forum.

This thread is now locked. Your ability to post will be locked out as well if you make another personal attack. We welcome new members and their views, but the purpose of your visit here has been anything but constructive so far.

That's a pretty clear explanation.

Is your problem that thread with no substance but for personal attacks was locked, or that it was not deleted - because it appears you are changing the story.  The Moderation on TulsaNow is generally pretty light.  Unsupported attacks on public figures degrade discussion and can even lead to lawsuits against the site (doubtful, but COULD).

The thread wasn't an attack IMHO, but I could see why (s)he locked it down and explained why.  Which is far better than many forums where threads just disappear.  

It seems odd that you are worried about this at all.  Do you have a personal connection in this or something?

[edit]fixed the quotes[/edit]

Just curious as it confused me that if it's against the rules then why is it still there unless the moderator wants to provide the original thought in the message without allowing the continuation of breaking the rules.

If a thread/topic evolves into having a post in it break a rule and more breaking looks to be un avoidable I could see just locking and leaving the original topic visible. When a thread/topic begins by breaking the rules then there is no reason to leave it up as it still supports the original poster and his/her post.
It's obvious that the original poster is probably not going to participate in the forum anyway so to me it appears the mod is supporting the action of the original poster.

No bone in the original post , just curious as to how things are done and why.....Didn't really think asking something makes you an affiliate of the topic.

[Conan71]

I honestly don't have a clue what the line of thinking is.  If you don't like the way things are moderated or have better ideas, email the forum admin and see if they have an opening for another moderator.

Your obsession with the topic is a little strange to most of us.  Maybe it's just that we have been around longer and are used to the way things are done.

I personally am not a fan of vanishing threads.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Locked threads generally don't seem to disappear.  They eventually scroll off the page in a few days.  There was one point a couple of years ago threads were being deleted which really pissed off a lot of people.

I guess you can have your pick, outright censorship, or a moderator enforcing forum policy and making an example out of it to keep others from doing the same thing.

I don't detect some sort of agenda, that's pretty much the way I've observed them doing it on here for some time now.

The TulsaNow Forum GEheimesSTAatsPOlizei LOVED to just delete Threads they did not like, like commentary about their beloved MetroTulsaChamberCrackedPots Kool-Aid parties.  

Maybe they are taking Xanax now, having seemed to ease up pounding their DELETE, DELETE key.

Guess whose?

You guessed it.

Can't imagine why......

They're using different tactics now.

More, later.

[]

[cannon_fodder]

I'm not saying you are an affiliate, just that I don't really get the gripe.  Anytime a thread is summarily deleted I see a "what happened to me thread" thread.  It was either Tay or FOTD a while back that started thing on it.

It is apperent that the Moderator does not lurk on here as often as many of us, (s)he seems to be on one or two times a day as things go unmoderated for a while.  Once they are up and replied to, it appears they are locked and not deleted.  The only threads I notice "disappearing" are spam threads.

Not sure if that is the policy, but it appears to be the way it goes.  PM the Moderator or Admin or email the site Admin and ask if it is of grave concern.  All I (we) can tell you is what our thoughts are and/or how we have done things on other sites (I modded several gaming forums over the years).

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I'm not saying you are an affiliate, just that I don't really get the gripe.  Anytime a thread is summarily deleted I see a "what happened to me thread" thread.  It was either Tay or FOTD a while back that started thing on it.

It is apperent that the Moderator does not lurk on here as often as many of us, (s)he seems to be on one or two times a day as things go unmoderated for a while.  Once they are up and replied to, it appears they are locked and not deleted.  The only threads I notice "disappearing" are spam threads.

Not sure if that is the policy, but it appears to be the way it goes.  PM the Moderator or Admin or email the site Admin and ask if it is of grave concern.  All I (we) can tell you is what our thoughts are and/or how we have done things on other sites (I modded several gaming forums over the years).

It's a lesser concern now that they've apparently quit just suddenly DELETING something the Forum GESTAPO simply disagreed with.  

Usually happened over on the Political forum.

Also, they don't apparently aggressively lock the threads.  I agree with the recent lock of the newbee attack thread concerning Medlock's purported TV Guide employment.

However, for some reason, the Administrator/Moderator does appear to allow too many personal attacks to be launched with vile name-calling.

I prefer serious, seasoned arguments for/against the purported Forum topics.

And, having a bit of fun.

And, clubbing baby seal pups.

Sorry, cancel that last one.

[MDepr2007]

Guess I won't bother asking why this disappeared then reappeared about the same time period as the Mod. edit time  [B)]

I won't ask anymore to find out a reason of something as I guess it means it bothers you or automatically ties you to the subject matter.

Gotta wonder what happened to the days of being able to ask something just because you're curious and wanted to understand. Obviously many here don't beleive that way []