Obama Veep will be...

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

...it tells me your baiting...[:O]

It's election season, is there something wrong with that? [}:)]

If by "baiting" Hoss means that I was attempting to deflate those giant Obama nutjobs egos as well as Obama's pre-election presidential coronation, then I guess I am guilty. Oh, and this just in:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true

[guido911]

And this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true

These will all change of course with the anticipated bump following the dem covention.

[FOTD]

You guys back touting the early, very early, polls like you did in the primaries?

Garbage in garbage out....landslide coming.[}:)]

Satan's for McCain anyway. He's together.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

And this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUKN1948672420080820?sp=true

These will all change of course with the anticipated bump following the dem covention.

(In my best FOTARD syntax):

Landslide for McCain!!!!

Only poll results that matter are the ones we'll hear the day after the election.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by inteller

if you flip on the other tab of that poll. it shows obama to have a landslide.

I can predict with 100% certainty that we will elect a loser in November.

Well that it is true, although I honor and respect McCain's military service immensely.

The devil don't....it's political gimmeckry!

OMFG: Fellow POW says he will NOT Vote McCain-Must READ

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/omfg-fellow-pow-says-he-will-n.php

Why I Will Not Vote for John McCain
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_2,00.html

"furthermore believe that having been a POW is no special qualification for being President of the United States. The two jobs are not the same, and POW experience is not, in my opinion, something I would look for in a presidential candidate"


"Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man "
B. Dylan (Brady 8-27-08)

[Conan71]

*Grunt* *Groan* *Plop* there's one...

*Grunt* *Groan* *Plop* there's two...

....Viet Nam vets who won't vote for McCain.  I bet there are many more.  You are aware that many vets have over-stated their involvement in Viet Nam?  A lot of time has passed and publicly-available documentation is scarce.

Because of this, I never assumed the Swift Boaters story had more veracity than Kerry's.

I would, however, assume that any POW's version of Viet Nam holds a lot more water than yours.

[FOTD]

You obviously failed the comprehension test of the link/article/blog....did not even read it did you Conan?[?]

"Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man "
B. Dylan (Brady 8-27-08)

[we vs us]

Since I don't have any money down on this . . .

. . . I'm starting to think that, for all the negative talk, Clinton may actually be the choice.  Why else would Obama give both Clintons so much real estate on the convention program?  Why else would he allow a symbolic roll call vote at the convention?  

And in the end, who can bring the most to the table, electorally?  We can argue about who brings a state (Virginia, Indiana, etc), but Clinton brings millions of supporters nationwide.

This is the quote that set it all off for me:

quote: In an interview in Chester, Va., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said he's made up his mind, but he would not say whether he's informed that person yet. "I won't comment on anything else until I introduce our running mate to the world," he said. "That's all you're going to get out of me."  

Obama said it was a difficult decision. "We had some great choices."  

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."  He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

Since I don't have any money down on this . . .

. . . I'm starting to think that, for all the negative talk, Clinton may actually be the choice.  Why else would Obama give both Clintons so much real estate on the convention program?  Why else would he allow a symbolic roll call vote at the convention?  

And in the end, who can bring the most to the table, electorally?  We can argue about who brings a state (Virginia, Indiana, etc), but Clinton brings millions of supporters nationwide.

This is the quote that set it all off for me:

quote: In an interview in Chester, Va., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said he's made up his mind, but he would not say whether he's informed that person yet. "I won't comment on anything else until I introduce our running mate to the world," he said. "That's all you're going to get out of me."  

Obama said it was a difficult decision. "We had some great choices."  

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."  He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

Those are good insights. Add to that the realization that polls show HRC supporters are still not moving over to support Obama and you have even more logic for her choice. Already been vetted, already been attacked and survived, ready to serve as running mate and replacement if necessary. I like it. What do we do with Bill?

[Gaspar]

If his running mate(s) is Hillary & Bill, will he have to get someone to taste his food and start his car for him?

Just a thought.

It would be a good team though.  He could give the speeches and she could do the debates and interviews.  They could tag team.  Whenever someone asked a tough question he could just slap her hand and she would jump in and answer.  Or perhaps he could sit on her knee and she could slide her hand up his. . .  [:O]

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

If his running mate(s) is Hillary & Bill, will he have to get someone to taste his food and start his car for him?

Just a thought.

It would be a good team though.  He could give the speeches and she could do the debates and interviews.  They could tag team.  Whenever someone asked a tough question he could just slap her hand and she would jump in and answer.  Or perhaps he could sit on her knee and she could slide her hand up his. . .  [:O]

Yeah, then McCain/Lieberman would parrot the same act. Lieberman actually knows where stuff is in the middle east and Europe so he could do the debates. Course he couldn't do the hand slap for the tag team cause baldy bruises too easy. Just yell into his good ear. Then Mr. Flipflop sits on Lie-berman's knee while he slips his fist up his...

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

Since I don't have any money down on this . . .

. . . I'm starting to think that, for all the negative talk, Clinton may actually be the choice.  Why else would Obama give both Clintons so much real estate on the convention program?  Why else would he allow a symbolic roll call vote at the convention?  

And in the end, who can bring the most to the table, electorally?  We can argue about who brings a state (Virginia, Indiana, etc), but Clinton brings millions of supporters nationwide.

This is the quote that set it all off for me:

quote: In an interview in Chester, Va., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said he's made up his mind, but he would not say whether he's informed that person yet. "I won't comment on anything else until I introduce our running mate to the world," he said. "That's all you're going to get out of me."  

Obama said it was a difficult decision. "We had some great choices."  

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."  He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

I assumed the Clintons were getting a lot of time (did I hear correctly that Chelsea will speak as well?) to try and mend the party and unify them, so I took it as a sign that Hillary was completely off the map for a running mate.

You might be on to something, but I think Obama's camp realizes voters might say come November: "no more Bushes or Clintons in the White House for anything more than a meeting or overnight stay."

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

Since I don't have any money down on this . . .

. . . I'm starting to think that, for all the negative talk, Clinton may actually be the choice.  Why else would Obama give both Clintons so much real estate on the convention program?  Why else would he allow a symbolic roll call vote at the convention?  

And in the end, who can bring the most to the table, electorally?  We can argue about who brings a state (Virginia, Indiana, etc), but Clinton brings millions of supporters nationwide.

This is the quote that set it all off for me:

quote: In an interview in Chester, Va., the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said he's made up his mind, but he would not say whether he's informed that person yet. "I won't comment on anything else until I introduce our running mate to the world," he said. "That's all you're going to get out of me."  

Obama said it was a difficult decision. "We had some great choices."  

Obama said he wanted somebody who is "prepared to be president" and who will be "a partner with me in strengthening this economy for the middle class and working families."  He said he was looking for not just a partner but a sparring partner. "I want somebody who's independent, somebody who can push against my preconceived notions and challenge me so we have got a robust debate in the White House."

Those are good insights. Add to that the realization that polls show HRC supporters are still not moving over to support Obama and you have even more logic for her choice. Already been vetted, already been attacked and survived, ready to serve as running mate and replacement if necessary. I like it. What do we do with Bill?

What to do with Bill is the million dollar question.  He's the guy who seems to have taken the primary battles the most personally, and is the most aggrieved.

I think he's best used as an image maker for the USA.  He and Gore (not that they'd be traveling together or anything) both have enough cred globally that they could galavant around making speeches, bestowing aid, raising funds for natural disasters, and in general ginning up support for a progressive United States.  Call it the Global Citizen Initiative or some such rot, with the US as an exemplar.  Clinton cut a nice figure out there with Bush 1, raising money for the typhoon a couple of years ago, and I'd love to see him be the face of American philanthropy around the world.  

Of course, keep him far far away from policy matters; no need to have a second (or third) quarterback hogging the ball.

[Conan71]

Who better to have for advice than a former sitting President (other than Bush II, I mean)?

I would assume the Clinton brain-trust will be relied upon heavily in Obama's first year, should he be elected.  Especially on economic matters and domestic policy.

[pmcalk]

Looks pretty clear to be Biden....