John Edwards.... Nothing but the truth..

[bokworker]

Appears John was not completely honest..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_affair

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by bokworker

Appears John was not completely honest..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080808/ap_on_el_pr/edwards_affair

The Poodle in heat!

[waterboy]

When it comes to politics, there's a lot of thinking with the smaller head. Occupational disease.

[StanOU]

Here is my blog entry on the subject:

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/OptionLeft

The infidelity of John Edwards.

Posted by StanOU

So John Edwards is the latest to disclose his marital infidelity.  Although this sort of thing is very disappointing to some, at the end of the day is it really anybody else's business?  Moreover, did Mr. Edwards and Ms. Hunter, through their private actions with each other, transgress any state or federal statutes?  

On the larger stage of high profile public figures recently scrutinized for moral, ethical or legal lapses, Mr. Edwards takes his place with other fellow Democrats such as the likes of former New York governor Eliot Spitzer, former New Jersey governor James McGreevey, and former Oklahoma state auditor and recently convicted Jeff McMahan.  

It is so disappointing when high profile Democrats let down those they serve through their own moral and/or legal character failures.  As a Democrat I cannot begin to express my level of disappointment in these leaders but hey, things happen, life goes on and the World continues to turn.

That said, I am forever grateful to not be a Republican.  You know, the GOP, the party whose righteous swagger exudes some sort of monopoly on morality, or so they would like to believe.  Those three Democrats I placed in league with John Edwards (who thus far has not been charged with a crime) are three I could think of off the top of my head dating back to 2004.  The number of Republicans with duly noted ethical/moral/legal problems over the past ten years however requires its own website:

http://www.republicanoffenders.com/

You have to admit the length of that list of Republicans is pretty impressive by any reasonable standard.  Also bear in mind this list is not one of rank and file party members but Republicans in elected or leadership positions.  And review this editor's note:

Editor's Note:

Why don't you provide a list of Democratic offenders?

My reason for creating the site was simply to refute Republican claims that
Democrats are inherently corrupt.   For instance, when Governor Spitzer was
exposed as a hypocrite by spending thousands on prostitutes, Democrats can
point to Richard A. Dasen   While Spitzer may have spent thousands, Dasen
spent $5 million, mostly on drug users.

I promise, if you're a Republican, you don't want a list of Democratic
Offenders.   Without it you are able to protest a valid point.  I agree, without
a comparable list, there's no comprehensive way to judge.  I prefer the list to
speak for itself.  These are prominent Republicans.  I did not make a list of
every republican criminal.  These are the leaders of the Republican party.

During my research the Justice Department provided a great resource for all
federal offenders and I could easily observe that prominent Republicans
produce 3 to 5 times more federal indictments than Dems.  It may be higher.  
But that's not the embarrassing part for conservatives.  So far, I have only
found a few prominent democrats that are pedophiles.  It's a huge
discrepancy.   If I had enough time to research specific clergymen and
examine their political affiliations, the numbers of republican pedophiles
would skyrocket.  If you haven't looked into clergy and sexual abuse, do a
few dozen google searches and take the time to open your eyes to the
problem. It's not just the Catholic church.  

Even a short poll of prominent sexual deviants shows a strikingly large
number of Republicans of all religious denomination breaking the law.  If you
doubt me, please, by all means, do the research yourself.  It's not difficult.  I
did all of my work with Google and caffeine.

It's important to note what was left out of this list.  I restricted the immorality
of Republicans to legalities.  If I spent time trying to catalogue Republican
hypocrisy, I don't think I could finish in this lifetime.  There are several lists
available on the internet that are horrifying to read.  Personal conduct by
these "family values" conservatives defines the word hypocrite.  Don't
believe me? Do a google search for yourself.  It will be good for you.  It
builds character.  



So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  I mean what is up with FIVE PAGES of pedophiles?!?  

So long as we have to select candidates from the ranks of the human race we are going to have candidates with human flaws.  But when you wrap yourself in the cloak of piety and proclaim yourself the defender of the nation's morals you had best become a shining example of what you preach or suffer consequences worse than defeat at the ballot box:  loss of ALL credibility.  

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quote:Originally posted by StanOU
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So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  

I must admit that Democrats are much better at not getting caught doing naughty things.

[StanOU]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:Originally posted by StanOU
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So as you can all see, the Democrats don't seem quite so bad.  

I must admit that Democrats are much better at not getting caught doing naughty things.

That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  

Seriously, what is it about being a Republican turns a person into a pervert?!?

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by StanOU

That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  

Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them.  

I have great faith that all political parties have essentially equal representation regarding perverts, con-persons, crooks etc.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:Originally posted by StanOU

That still doesn't explain why the Repubs have a disproportionate number of pedophiles.  

Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them.  

I have great faith that all political parties have essentially equal representation regarding perverts, con-persons, crooks etc.

Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]

Coin toss:

Rep:  "too stupid to conceal it"
Dem:  "we are good at concealing illegal and immoral activities"

Can't win either way.

[StanOU]

quote:
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Originally posted by Red Arrow:
"Sure it does, the democrats just haven't gotten caught as often so the public doesn't know about them."
_____________________________________

Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  

As you can see from the work done at
RepublicanOffenders.com, your assertion doesn't stand up.  

What the hell is up with FIVE PAGES of GOP pedophiles!  And those are not rank and file GOPers, those are high profile party members.

Go see if you can find that many Dems to match it.  The guy who runs RepublicanOffenders.com already did and couldn't.  As he said, do your own Google search.  It builds character.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

Either that or the Repugs are too stupid to conceal it.  That actually makes more sense.  [:O]

Coin toss:

Rep:  "too stupid to conceal it"
Dem:  "we are good at concealing illegal and immoral activities"

Can't win either way.

Actually, yes you can.  If no one knows about it if you're concealing, then they've won.  Do I agree with it?  No.  But it's human nature.  Don't get caught with your hand in the cookie jar.  The Repubs have a bad track record with that, and I'm not talking about just moral indiscretions.  I won't trot out Watergate.  [xx(]

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  

See reply below which is essentially the same. There was a glitch that said my reply was't posted so I tried it again and got a message that flood control was on, no replys by the same poster within 30 seconds so I added to it and tried a while later.


Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  

Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica. Ted Kennedy will always have a question about his actions with Koepecnik (sp?). The others in his extended family have also made the news at various times with questionable behavior. It seems to me that before LBJ turned the south Republican, the most racist governors were Democrats. I am thinking about George Wallace in particular.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.  If you restrict your definitions and time frames sufficiently, either party can be made to be the evil one.  Hey, it's politics.

[StanOU]

quote:Originally posted by Red Arrow

quote:Originally posted by StanOU
Okay Red Arrow, prove it.  

Duh.  They haven't been caught. Obviously I cannot prove it. Your only proof otherwise is lack of public evidence. It is nearly impossible to prove that something does not exist. It only takes one example to prove that something does exist.

Your blind faith in the Democratic party is just as bad as Republican blind faith.  Both are.... blind.

Please note that I am not saying that some noteworthy Republicans have not been caught doing downright stupid things.  All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly.  

I don't have specific pedophile examples.  General corruption and less than honorable actions abound in both parties.  Tamany Hall in NYC was, I believe, Democrats.  Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it.  Whether it was over hyped by Republicans or not, the Clinton administration was not without flaws.  And I really don't care about Monica.

Get off your high horse, both parties are about the same when it comes to less than honorable people.

"Obviously I cannot prove it."

I didn't think so.

"Chicago and the Daly (sp?) dynasty was legend. I think that is where the saying "vote early, vote often" originated but I cannot prove it."

I have heard that all my life but none other than the Gonzales DoJ proved that voter fraud was an ultraminor crime wave, like 38 cases in three years, but that is another story.

"All I am saying is that it is not a Republican monopoly."

I don't remember asserting it was, but when you proclaim yourself the party of "family values" you better promote better examples than what we are seeing.  

Back to RepublicanOffenders.com.  There you have demonstrable evidence that the GOP, the party that "threw the rascals out" in 1994 was no troop of boy scouts.  One thing I've heard numerous GOPers grouse about is how there needs to be profiling of Middle Easterners and Muslims.  Judging by FIVE PAGES of GOP pedophiles, any card carrying GOP white Christian male is a suspect pedophile!  Profile that!!!

[FOTD]

Ann Coulter is a deadhead...a little devilette!

http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10962

Maureen is the real deal!