McCain has how many houses?

[we vs us]

It's not so much that he actually forgot how many houses he has . . . like sgrizz says, that could feasibly happen in several different scenarios.  The reason it's taken on a life of its own is that, in context with the rest of what we know about McCain, it encapsulates just how out of touch he really is.  It's something that people know or suspect about him already, but him forgetting how rich he is is the simple and compelling detail that nails it for everyone.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Here's how Texas is handling this "controversy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auG9qsZpL6o&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/video-texas-gop-goes-after-obama-on-houses/

So, Obama is criticizing the McCains for "successfully living the American dream."  I guess by the American dream, they mean inheriting millions from Daddy, while your half sister gets squat.  Or maybe they mean dumping your first wife who patiently waited years for you so that you could marry a good looking, super rich girl almost half your age.

And what a zinger against Obama--he hasn't solved the problem of poverty in Kenya, even though he lives in a nice house.  That sure is hitting him hard.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Here's how Texas is handling this "controversy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auG9qsZpL6o&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/video-texas-gop-goes-after-obama-on-houses/

So, Obama is criticizing the McCains for "successfully living the American dream."  I guess by the American dream, they mean inheriting millions from Daddy, while your half sister gets squat.  Or maybe they mean dumping your first wife who patiently waited years for you so that you could marry a good looking, super rich girl almost half your age.

And what a zinger against Obama--he hasn't solved the problem of poverty in Kenya, even though he lives in a nice house.  That sure is hitting him hard.

I think the "zinger" is that Obama really does not care about the "least of [his] brothers..." as he so eloquently stated at Saddleback. (at 1:30ish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBIuTm0RRA

Nice try making it about Kenya when you know darn well the ad is focusing on the absence of Obama's support of his own brother.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I guess by the American dream, they mean ... dumping your first wife who patiently waited years for you so that you could marry a good looking, super rich girl almost half your age.

That isn't the American Dream?

(TV is lying to me)

[jne]

I don't know how fair it is to compare Obama's brother. I may be wrong, but I don't think he had ever even met his brother in Kenya until well after his dad had passed.  Maybe his brother enjoys a humble, familiar life in his own culture.  Is Obama expected to give him an apartment in Manhattan so he can live the so called 'good life.'  I sincerely doubt that he would just let him starve or go without needed health care.  If there's a story hear, where is it?

[Hometown]

I imagine brother will be getting an upgrade in residence to protect our candidate.  Security kind of issue.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Here's how Texas is handling this "controversy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auG9qsZpL6o&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/video-texas-gop-goes-after-obama-on-houses/

So, Obama is criticizing the McCains for "successfully living the American dream."  I guess by the American dream, they mean inheriting millions from Daddy, while your half sister gets squat.  Or maybe they mean dumping your first wife who patiently waited years for you so that you could marry a good looking, super rich girl almost half your age.

And what a zinger against Obama--he hasn't solved the problem of poverty in Kenya, even though he lives in a nice house.  That sure is hitting him hard.

I think the "zinger" is that Obama really does not care about the "least of [his] brothers..." as he so eloquently stated at Saddleback. (at 1:30ish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBIuTm0RRA

Nice try making it about Kenya when you know darn well the ad is focusing on the absence of Obama's support of his own brother.

Ah Gweedoe.

Satan can always depend on you to slash.

Then burn![}:)]

"What politicians do with their own money says something about their character. It says even more about their faith."
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2008/08/rich_mccain_poor_mccain.html

After Denver, let's talk about class and fairness.

"We live in a political world
Where courage is a thing of the past
Houses are haunted, children are unwanted
The next day could be your last."
B. Dylan (Brady 8-27-08)

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Here's how Texas is handling this "controversy."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auG9qsZpL6o&eurl=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/25/video-texas-gop-goes-after-obama-on-houses/

So, Obama is criticizing the McCains for "successfully living the American dream."  I guess by the American dream, they mean inheriting millions from Daddy, while your half sister gets squat.  Or maybe they mean dumping your first wife who patiently waited years for you so that you could marry a good looking, super rich girl almost half your age.

And what a zinger against Obama--he hasn't solved the problem of poverty in Kenya, even though he lives in a nice house.  That sure is hitting him hard.

I think the "zinger" is that Obama really does not care about the "least of [his] brothers..." as he so eloquently stated at Saddleback. (at 1:30ish)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBIuTm0RRA

Nice try making it about Kenya when you know darn well the ad is focusing on the absence of Obama's support of his own brother.

Like I said, a real "zinger."  One of Obama's many half siblings, whom he has seen twice in his entire life, lives in poverty just like half of the population in Kenya.  What is he suppose to do?  Send money to every relative living in Kenya, whether he knows them or not?

You do know that Cindy McCain has failed to even acknowledge that she has siblings? http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/08/20/2008-08-20_cindy_mccains_only_child_claim_angers_ha-2.html.

People in glass houses....

[guido911]

Well, we know McCain had at least one home:

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/08/28/scgop-launches-mccain-ad/

Go ahead PM, Recycle, and you others out there sniping that "McCain is out of touch."  Tell me what your sacrifices have been in pursuit of the American dream. Better yet, tell me what Obama has done. Oh that's right, Obama was a community organizer.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Well, we know McCain had at least one home:

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/08/28/scgop-launches-mccain-ad/

Go ahead PM, Recycle, and you others out there sniping that "McCain is out of touch."  Tell me what your sacrifices have been in pursuit of the American dream. Better yet, tell me what Obama has done. Oh that's right, Obama was a community organizer.

Jingo ads Jingo ads Jingo all the way....

What might McSame do if elected is the question.

McCain IS out of touch. Bombing innocent children and getting shot down illustrate where you go if you don't study hard.

"If the Democrats cannot adequately warn Americans of the dangers of a hotheaded temperament and uber-neo-con mindset in the White House for another four years, they deserve to lose."


America Against The World
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/america-against.html



When you're confronted by a bully (Rethuglicans), how do you deal with him? By being nice? That only encourages him. I'm wondering why Democrats forever compliment their Rethuglican opponents, e.g. John McCain in this case. Yeah I know it's better to be civil, but we're dealing with thugs in this case, people who don't respect anything but brute force and power.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Well, we know McCain had at least one home:

http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/08/28/scgop-launches-mccain-ad/

Go ahead PM, Recycle, and you others out there sniping that "McCain is out of touch."  Tell me what your sacrifices have been in pursuit of the American dream. Better yet, tell me what Obama has done. Oh that's right, Obama was a community organizer.

Well geez, can't someone be an ex-POW AND out of touch?

[RecycleMichael]

If only everything was so simple, Guido.

Yes McCain is a war hero. Yes, we all know he was a POW.

But does that mean he gets a pass on everything the rest of his life? Does he get to be unfaithful to his wife, get caught up in savings and loan scandals, be forgetful of his wealthy homes across the country?

You could say yes to these or you could say no to these based on your personal views of the severity of each.

But you can't say it makes him worthy to be our President.

You see, being President is a hard job and I honestly don't think he is up for it. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is a war hero. He is out of touch with the American people and he has been living in a fantasy world where his rich wife owns and runs everything. He is at an age where remembering things is getting difficult and your anger can often cloud your judgement.

McCain is just the wrong guy for America in 2008. I am internally grateful he served his country and made such a sacrifice. I would shake his hand and buy him a steak and a beer if I ever get the chance. But I won't vote for him for President just because he was a POW.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael


You see, being President is a hard job and I honestly don't think he is up for it. It has nothing to do with the fact that he is a war hero. He is out of touch with the American people and he has been living in a fantasy world where his rich wife owns and runs everything. He is at an age where remembering things is getting difficult and your anger can often cloud your judgement.

Wow, hyperbole much. First, I wish we could go back in time and see how you and others handled Heinz-Kerry's financial worth, and whether you thought he lived in fantasy land where his [way more rich than Cindy McCain] rich wife owned and ran everything. As for health issues, following that logic I guess you cannot vote for any ticket with Biden's name on it because Biden has had brain aneurysms, which could explain his tendencies to be obnoxious, to lie about his accomplishments, and to steal other persons ideas.

More to the point, merely being a POW is not a qualifier to be president. Having experience, a record of accomplishment, respect of one's peers, and, yes, service to one's country on the other hand are qualifiers in my opinion. So tell me, using my qualifiers, tell me about Obama's experience and accomplishments? Better yet, tell me about what real sacrifice he has made for this country. Because ultimately, that sacrifice demonstrates character. Sitting in a church for 20 years while a racist demagogue spews black liberation theology then bailing out on it once it is publicly exposed as such, or launching your political career at the home of a person who bombed government buildings or that even refers to his grandmother as a "typical white person" demonstrates to me an absolute absence of any character. In my opinion, it demonstrates both poor judgment and abject cowardice. So go ahead, and vote your conscience and go with the guy YOU were ripping just a few months ago. Here's a thread from this forum you started:

http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9704&whichpage=1&SearchTerms=obama

Kinda sucks getting smacked around by your own words.

[RecycleMichael]

No, it doesn't.

I wrote quite a bit about Obama and I wish the democrats had a different nominee. I will vote for Obama, but I won't give him my money and I won't blindly defend him.

This thread is about McCain. As much as I have stated many problems with Obama, I have ten times more with McCain.

McCain is just wrong for America. He is wrong on the war, wrong on the economy, wrong on immigration, wrong on energy. The American voters will choose Obama over McCain.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No, it doesn't.

I wrote quite a bit about Obama and I wish the democrats had a different nominee. I will vote for Obama, but I won't give him my money and I won't blindly defend him.

This thread is about McCain. As much as I have stated many problems with Obama, I have ten times more with McCain.

McCain is just wrong for America. He is wrong on the war, wrong on the economy, wrong on immigration, wrong on energy. The American voters will choose Obama over McCain.

First, this thread can be about whatever we want it to be. As for McCain being 10 times worse than McCain, I would simply again point to your prior posts:

Obama is a liar:

http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9493&SearchTerms=obama

McCain follows the rules when Obama does not: (public financing):

http://www.tulsanow.net/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9698&SearchTerms=obama

I think I know why you support Obama. You, like him, lack the fortitude to stick to your convictions.