Another Downtown Demo?

[carltonplace]

Anyone know what is going on with the 3 story red brick building on Cheyenne between 10th-11th Streets? The old fascia has been removed as if a remodel were planned, but the roof has been torn off and a truck sized hole is knocked out on the top floor. Is this coming down?

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

Anyone know what is going on with the 3 story red brick building on Cheyenne between 10th-11th Streets? The old fascia has been removed as if a remodel were planned, but the roof has been torn off and a truck sized hole is knocked out on the top floor. Is this coming down?

I thought they were doing a remodel as well..

But now it looks to be on it's way down.

[mrB]

The building [818 S Cheyenne Ave] used to have this fascia, like carltonplace said.



I wouldn't think they would go through the effort to remove the old fascia, just to do a teardown. Workers were 'sweeping' the sidewalk today. A large frontend loader was moving the brick piles around in the north parking lot. I saw a small bobcat/dozer on the top floor today. Maybe the roof was not worth saving? The overhead door on the southeast side was open and there is a ramp going up to the second floor. What did this building use to be?

[carltonplace]

It looks like they just removed the top floor. Wonder what's up with this place.

[mrB]

Well, it did come down! After sitting idle for about a month, without any more demo being done, it came all the way down today!

Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

[cannon_fodder]

More fine development in downtown Tulsa.

/frustration, growing.

[MichaelBates]

quote:Originally posted by mrB



Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

It is owned by either Twenty First Properties, Embark LLC or some other LLC with the same mailing address.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by mrB



Well, it did come down! After sitting idle for about a month, without any more demo being done, it came all the way down today!

Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

Motel 6 and a Denny's.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by mrB



Well, it did come down! After sitting idle for about a month, without any more demo being done, it came all the way down today!

Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

Motel 6 and a Denny's.

Are you jackin' with us?

[dbacks fan]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by mrB



Well, it did come down! After sitting idle for about a month, without any more demo being done, it came all the way down today!

Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

Motel 6 and a Denny's.

Great place for it. (roll eyes)

[TheTed]

That must be why they closed all the other Denny's in town: to open one super-duper Denny's, one where the waiters will only ignore you for 45 minutes at a time.

[dbacks fan]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

That must be why they closed all the other Denny's in town: to open one super-duper Denny's, one where the waiters will only ignore you for 45 minutes at a time.

I thought you were joking until I looked it up. The one at I-44 and Yale I can see with the widening project, but the ones on 11th and I-44 and Woodland Hills locations? When did that happen?

[cannon_fodder]

*warning, little substantive info was actually found.

The lot is owned by Embark Corporation, 2121 S. Columbia Ave. , STE 650 (shared office address with a non-profit and twenty first properties, Inc. from what I can tell.  Occasionally Embark and 21st Transfer files).  The tax information on it is to Embark Inc. c/o Dan Schusterman (some serious political contributions, DOB:  01/29/1927, I won't post his home phone or address but man, the internet is just scary sometimes - but no business phone listed).  

Embark has been around Tulsa for 30+ years (PAUL D WILSON is their registered agent, I assume he works for Twenty First Properties).  They have a good amount of dealings with the city (tax free deeds, lien releases, etc. - normal for anyone with significant holdings I suppose).  A lien on part of this tract from the city has been cleared.

Legally the tract is:
N40 Lot 1 N40 E50 Lot 2 block 178, Originally township of Tulsa, Oklahoma.

All this trying to get a phone number to just call and ask if they had plans for that lot.  The number for 21st Properties is 743-4300, but I don't want to call since they are not officially involved.  No number for Embark, but I didn't fork over the $5 for a full SOS search.  Corporations without readily available phone numbers bother me.

Tulsa County Land Management Information System
Assessor and Treasurer Records
Secretary of State business services
OSCN

yay for public records... crap, there went my lunch break.

/completely amateur quick and dirty search.   Mostly by block 178 of the original township.  So I stand to be corrected.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

That must be why they closed all the other Denny's in town: to open one super-duper Denny's, one where the waiters will only ignore you for 45 minutes at a time.

I thought you were joking until I looked it up. The one at I-44 and Yale I can see with the widening project, but the ones on 11th and I-44 and Woodland Hills locations? When did that happen?

The local franchisee had financial troubles. Denny will just try to get a new franchisee in.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by mrB



Well, it did come down! After sitting idle for about a month, without any more demo being done, it came all the way down today!

Anybody heard plans for the site? Same corp. owns almost the whole square block!

Motel 6 and a Denny's.

Are you jackin' with us?

No, it is part of the new "Suburbanize Downtown" campaign by the TDA.

Just wait till you see the plans for the Cracker Barrel in the former BOK Drive Thru location. It will knock your socks off!!!