Gov. Palin's Speech- Impressions?

[tim huntzinger]

Gothamist.com: 'McCain officially nominated, but Palin steals the show.'

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

Gothamist.com: 'McCain officially nominated, but Palin steals the show.'

Governor Palin gave a great speech last nite.

Her life story, obvious abilities, and potential seemed very authentic.

Mrs. Authentic Hockey Mom Governor vs. Barach Hussein Obama empty suit.

The guy is an empty suit who can read a teleprompter.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I watched the speech with two republicans and two democrats.

The republicans were wowed the second she walked on stage. The democrats kept asking why she was making weird facial expressions when she emphasized her talking points. The demos thought her voice was nasal, the republicans thought her smile was great...

I kept thinking to myself...what makes her worthy of this great office? What was she doing that would be different from what Karen Keith could do?

Karen Keith kinda looks like her...She can read a teleprompter...

Karen Keith for vice president!

Karen Keith has more experience READING a teleprompter.

About 20 years of experience reading a teleprompter.

Former news anchor Karen Keith SHOULD be good at it.

She's barren, right?

Had a career instead of a child?

All those wasted eggs........

[carltonplace]

^ wow

[USRufnex]

wow x2......

Her speech was filled with cynical political soundbites lacking any substance....

Substance...  http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/951208/

Which should be required reading for anyone who's been listening to the Republican spin machine over the past few days.  []

[FOTD]

Every Repiglican at TNF, with a few exceptions, read this!


Sarah Palin and Fond Memories of Demagogues Past
THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter


"And thereupon graced the stage a woman whose very name 99 out of 100 delegates would not have known just one week ago, yet she was greeted by thunderously supportive hoots, hollers and hosannas as if she was the Resurrection, the Light and the Way; perhaps Ronald Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, all in one.

There is -- no kidding -- a metaphysical and in this case eponymous term, palingenesis, meaning, literally, from the Greek, another beginning, one in which one's soul slips right into another's physical form. Last night I think we witnessed just that.

It must be feeling pretty crowded in there for Sarah Palin right now, given that Spiro Agnew -- and not, as so many on the convention floor thought, Reagan or Roosevelt or Lincoln -- seems to have found a way back. At long last.

John McCain thought he needed an Agnewesque pit bull with lipstick, as the Alaska governor self-deprecatingly joked -- I think -- of herself. And John McCain sure got one.

This lady knows how to play rough, which in politics means disgracefully foul. Happily, that's the best of all possible scenarios for us political junkies, who possess a congenital love for the taste of blood.

And did she ever spill some last night -- this loving Christian; this warm, forgiving acolyte of Christ; this metaphysically regenerated marvel of Nixon's attack cur, in a skirt.

Oh, Spiro, how we missed you but nevertheless had our memory banks of you tapped last night as Ms. Palin unctuously inveighed against what she called "the permanent political establishment" -- let's see, Mr. Agnew, that would be the one you helped create (see, especially, Rick Perlstein's Nixonland), would it not? -- in which she denied any membership.

Producing, pleasantly enough, one of those paradoxical bad news-good news things.

On the one hand, through her speechwriters Ms. Palin has "learned ... these past few days that if you're not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone."

But take this you blackguards, you scurrilous lowlifes of Eastern elitism and liberal bias: "Here's a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion -- I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country."

With that, the right-wing tumescence on the manly floor of the Republican National Convention commenced. These clowns will buy anything, as long as it's packaged in the most commonly demagogic denominator possible.

Still, Ms. Palin's heavier dose of venom was reserved, of course, for the real enemy of the people: He who strives to make government politically accountable and socioeconomically responsive -- you know, by promising silly stuff, like a mature global presence and domestic health care.

But beware, for he is but a wolf among you: "In small towns, we" -- the small-town we, not the cynical and citified you -- "don't quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren't listening," said Ms. Palin.

So the dagger flashes, and now the wolf knows how he shall be hunted by -- a reminder is necessary -- this loving Christian; this warm, forgiving acolyte of Christ.

But I'm not complaining. This stuff is great. For it is merely the stuff of the poisonously unenlightening democracy we have so effortlessly fashioned for ourselves.

On second thought, however, perhaps I have my human analogues wrong, as well as the wrong election in mind.

At first, some of us thought this presidential election might be a defining replay of the somewhat more serious, if not classier, 1960 version. Then, last night, Ms. Palin seemed to transformationally elbow her way onto stage in a 1968 manner. But on further sensory reflection, I smell more Goldwater of '64 vintage than Nixon or Agnew.

Because that Arizona senator, too, realized he couldn't defeat the promise of a Greater Society with rational discourse. So he went, reluctantly, I should add, for the cultural jugular instead, deploying or exploiting whatever sharp wedges he could find. He wasn't happy about his strategic choice, but he saw no options. It was either the slimmest hope of desperation politics, or sure defeat.

And that, it would seem, is the ghost that Ms. Palin's speechwriters channeled last night. Their words in her mouth radiated the unmistakable message that they know this thing can't be won on the dignified up-and-up. No way.

And that, furthermore, is actually the good news: They were detectably dispirited at the starting gate. "

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I watched the speech with two republicans and two democrats.

The republicans were wowed the second she walked on stage. The democrats kept asking why she was making weird facial expressions when she emphasized her talking points. The demos thought her voice was nasal, the republicans thought her smile was great...

I kept thinking to myself...what makes her worthy of this great office? What was she doing that would be different from what Karen Keith could do?

Karen Keith kinda looks like her...She can read a teleprompter...

Karen Keith for vice president!

Karen Keith has more experience READING a teleprompter.

About 20 years of experience reading a teleprompter.

Former news anchor Karen Keith SHOULD be good at it.

She's barren, right?

Had a career instead of a child?

All those wasted eggs........

You're one of the scarier people I've met on the internet.

I hope you don't leave your basement too often.

[iplaw]

quote:Her speech was filled with cynical political soundbites lacking any substance....

Such as?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD


There is -- no kidding -- a metaphysical and in this case eponymous term, palingenesis, meaning, literally, from the Greek, another beginning, one in which one's soul slips right into another's physical form. Last night I think we witnessed just that.

How ironic he mentioned the whole Greek thing since Obama was coronated in a Greek Temple-looking thingy. (Oh the symbolism!)

Yep, Dims are scared ****less.  They know now chump change is facing down real change.  The Dims armed themselves with knives for a gun-fight.

If you are going to promote real change, you don't choose one of the longest-serving pay-to-play Senators with questionable ethics to be your running mate.

All these columists are doing are expressing their remorse that Obama wasn't brighter in picking his veep by trying to belittle McCain's brilliant pick.

McCain is laying sod on your "landslide".

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Former news anchor Karen Keith SHOULD be good at it.

She's barren, right?

Had a career instead of a child?

All those wasted eggs........

That is it, friendly bear.

You don't deserve any more space on this forum. Between that tasteless comment and you  talking about cripples yesterday you have crossed a line that should have never been crossed.

Administrators...please ban him from this forum.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Former news anchor Karen Keith SHOULD be good at it.

She's barren, right?

Had a career instead of a child?

All those wasted eggs........

That is it, friendly bear.

You don't deserve any more space on this forum. Between that tasteless comment and you  talking about cripples yesterday you have crossed a line that should have never been crossed.

Administrators...please ban him from this forum.

I agree with RM... Time to clean it up.

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Her speech was filled with cynical political soundbites lacking any substance....

Such as?

http://www.samefacts.com/archives/campaign_2008_/2008/09/palin_v_reality.php

PALIN: "Our opponents say, again and again, that drilling will not solve all of America's energy problems - as if we all didn't know that already. But the fact that drilling won't solve every problem is no excuse to do nothing at all."

REALITY: PALIN SAID SHE WOULD BEG TO DISAGREE WITH ANY CANDIDATE WHO SAID WE CAN'T DRILL OUR WAY OUT OF OUR PROBLEM

PALIN: "In fact, I told Congress -- I told Congress, 'Thanks, but no thanks,' on that bridge to nowhere."

REALITY: PALIN WAS FOR THE BRIDGE TO NOWHERE BEFORE SHE WAS AGAINST IT.

REALITY: PALIN ONLY ANNOUNCED OPPOSITION TO ONE "BRIDGE TO NOWHERE," STILL SUPPORTS THE OTHER ONE

PALIN: "Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska, I was mayor of my hometown."

REALITY: UNDER PALIN, WASILLA GOVERNMENT SPENDING & DEBT SKYROCKETED.

Total Government Expenditures Increased 63 Percent Under Palin. In fiscal 2003—the last fiscal year Palin approved the budget—the total government expenditures of Wasilla, excluding capital outlays, were $7,046,325. In fiscal 1996—the year before Palin took control of the
budget—the expenditures were $4,317,947. The increase was 63 percent. [Wasilla Comprehensive Annual Financial Report 2003, Table 1]

Palin Supported Increasing Wasilla Sales Tax From 2 to 2.5 Percent to Build $14.7 Million Sports Center. "Wasilla residents have given the go ahead to building a new multiuse sports center in town and to raising the city sales tax to pay for it. With the final votes counted
Friday, residents voted 306 to 286 in favor of a measure to raise the city sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay the estimated $14.7 million cost of building the center...Mayor Sarah Palin, who supported the measure, said the tight vote will motivate city officials to keep a close eye on the budget for the center." [Anchorage Daily News, 3/9/02]

Palin Left Behind Almost $19 Million In Long-Term Debt, Compared to None Before She Was Mayor.

PALIN: "It was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau ... when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network."

REALITY: PALIN HAS A LT. GOVERNOR WHO IS A FORMER OIL LOBBYIST, HIRED WASILLA'S FIRST FEDERAL LOBBYIST (A FORMER STEVENS STAFFER) & HAD THE SUPPORT OF ENTRENCHED ALASKA POLITICIANS DURING HER 2006 RACE.

PALIN: "I came to office promising major ethics reform, to end the culture of self-dealing. And today, that ethics reform is the law."

REALITY: PALIN SIGNED WEAK ETHICS REFORM BILL & HAS HAD NUMEROUS ETHICAL FLAPS OF HER OWN.

Palin Signed Ethics Reform Legislation That Anchorage Republican Bob Roses Said Didn't Go Far Enough. "An ethics reform package for state officials was signed into law Monday by Gov. Sarah Palin, just minutes after a former state representative was convicted on seven federal extortion and bribery counts.

PALIN: "I suspended the state fuel tax, and championed reform to end the abuses of earmark spending by Congress."

REALITY: ALASKA HAS REQUESTED $589 MILLION IN PORK SINCE PALIN TOOK OFFICE & AS MAYOR, SHE HIRED WASILLA'S FIRST FEDERAL LOBBYIST TO SECURE EARMARKS FOR THE TOWN.

Over $589 Million in Federal Pork Requests During Palin's Tenure as Governor. According to Citizens Against Government Waste, www.cagw.org, under Palin's tenure as Governor the state of Alaska has asked for $589,599,715 in pork barrel projects. [2007 and 2008 Pig Book, www.cagw.org]

PALIN: "Taxes are too high ... he wants to raise them."

REALITY: PALIN HAS REPEATEDLY SUPPORTED TAX INCREASES

Palin Supported Increasing Wasilla Sales Tax From 2 to 2.5 Percent to Build $14.7 Million Sports Center. "Wasilla residents have given the go-ahead to building a new multiuse sports center in town and to raising the city sales tax to pay for it. With the final votes counted Friday, residents voted 306 to 286 in favor of a measure to raise thecity sales tax from 2 percent to 2.5 percent to pay the estimated$14.7 million cost of building the center...Mayor Sarah Palin, whosupported the measure, said the tight vote will motivate city officials to keep a close eye on the budget for the center." [Anchorage Daily News, 3/9/02]

Palin Increased Taxes on Oil Companies to Pay for $1,200 Giveaway to Every Resident in the State. "One of her most significant accomplishments as governor was passing a major tax increase on state oil production, angering oil companies but raising billions of dollars in new revenue. She said the oil companies had previously bribed legislators to keep the taxes low. She subsequently championed legislation that would give some of that money back to Alaskans: Soon,every Alaskan will receive a $1,200 check." [New York Times, 8/30/08]

PALIN: "It was just a year ago when all the experts in Washington counted out our nominee because he refused to hedge his commitment to the security of the country he loves.

With their usual certitude, they told us that all was lost - there was no hope for this candidate who said that he would rather lose an election than see his country lose a war.

But the pollsters and pundits overlooked just one thing when they wrote him off.

They overlooked the caliber of the man himself - the determination,resolve, and sheer guts of Senator John McCain. The voters knew better."

REALITY: PALIN COUNTED MCCAIN OUT TWICE

February 2008: Palin Wouldn't Endorse McCain. "Top Alaska Republicans were downcast Thursday as Mitt Romney suspended his presidential campaign just two days after overwhelmingly winning the state party caucus. Romney's decision makes it nearly certain Arizona Sen. John McCain will be the party's nominee for president. McCain finished dead last in the Alaska Republican preference poll, behind Romney, Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul. McCain opposes drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and has repeatedly battled with Sen. Ted Stevens over federal spending on Alaska projects... Republican Gov. Sarah Palin said she won't make an endorsement until she can speak to McCain. [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 2/3/08]

July 2007: Palin Was Waiting For A New Player In GOP Primary. 'A lot of us are sitting back and waiting to see if there will be new players in there,' Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said. 'That's probably why that box that says 'none of the above' is so popular right now.' [The Associated Press State & Local Wire, 7/23/07]

Palin Couldn't Support McCain Because Of His Opposition To ANWR. "Some Alaska Republicans are conflicted over McCain, including Gov. Sarah Palin. They like his maverick reputation and military background but not his opposition to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.'She said she'd like to support McCain but felt she couldn't at this particular time because of his stand on ANWR,' said the governor's spokeswoman, Sharon Leighow." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 2/3/08]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/politics/animal/main4414049.shtml

----Today's Andrew Sullivan on state of the Republican Party....

"They are a religious and cultural identity party, primed to rally to anything their leaders say and question nothing. That's why they're so dangerous.

They can do anything and defend it - invade a country on false pretenses, grind the military into extreme danger, trash the Geneva Conventions, expand government at a record pace, threaten war with Iran and Russia - and still say with a straight face that they are the party of national security, fiscal restraint, foreign policy wisdom and military pride. It doesn't matter what they do; these people believe in this cause because it is about God and America and their own identity. And when you have a major political party constructed like that, they can do anything. And they have."

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear
Former news anchor Karen Keith SHOULD be good at it.

She's barren, right?

Had a career instead of a child?

All those wasted eggs........

That is it, friendly bear.

You don't deserve any more space on this forum. Between that tasteless comment and you  talking about cripples yesterday you have crossed a line that should have never been crossed.

Administrators...please ban him from this forum.

You ban FB and this devil might be next no doubt. Posters like FB attract birds of a feather. It's important to have this type around TNF so we can see his veiled like kind thinkers (remember the axman) ......speaking of
veiled, look at this pathetic candidates instructions from her handlers:

McCain campaign: Palin won't do any interviews, she's just going to read speeches from now on. They're going the Bush route of packaging over accountability.

http://www.americablog.com/2008/09/mccain-campaign-palin-wont-do-any.html


My favorite reply:
"Read the latest on her speech at ABC - IT WAS ALL LIES AND MORE LIES. These creepy Republican Christians can't tell the truth if their hateful God was sitting on their laps. HYPOCRITES. Cant wait for Biden to make mincemeat out of the Bimbo. I can already see her having bake sales on the front lawn of the White House to raise money to bomb Iran."

WHY DOES SARAH PALIN REFUSE TO ALLOW THE MEDIA TO ASK HER QUESTIONS?

ARE HER HANDLERS SHUDDERING IN FEAR THAT HER INNOCENCE WILL SHINE THROUGH AND MAKE AMERICA WAKE UP TO THE FACT SHE DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE TO THE ECONOMY NOR TO FOREIGN POLICY?

[]Here's one of her weirdo speeches:
http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=42826 [)]

The media needs to make mincemeat out of this Bimbo.[}:)][}:)]

[CoffeeBean]

Conan -

In response to Palin's charge that Obama has never authored significant legislation:

quote:You can go look at Obama's State Senate legislative record here. And his US Senate record here. At last count, sponsorship of 820 laws in Illinois, and authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 in Washington. The 2007 Ethics Reform bill alone cannot be dismissed as simply non-existent.

Full post here

Yes, Palin made a good appearance, but dig a little and her facts come up short.  Not unlike her claim that she was against the "Bridge to Nowhere."  More correctly stated, she was for the "Bridge" until it became a symbol of pork barrel politics and the feds cut off funding.  With the money gone, she was against it.  That's like telling your boss that he can't fire you because you quit.  

But truth-telling is not what the speech was about.  It was about mobilizing the fundamentalist Christians.  I am afraid the GOP has turned the corner towards becoming a full-fledged evangelical Christianist movement.  And that may be great for a great many people, but I don't want religion driving my politics.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by CoffeeBean

Conan -

In response to Palin's charge that Obama has never authored significant legislation:

quote:You can go look at Obama's State Senate legislative record here. And his US Senate record here. At last count, sponsorship of 820 laws in Illinois, and authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 in Washington. The 2007 Ethics Reform bill alone cannot be dismissed as simply non-existent.

Full post here

Yes, Palin made a good appearance, but dig a little and her facts come up short.  Not unlike her claim that she was against the "Bridge to Nowhere."  More correctly stated, she was for the "Bridge" until it became a symbol of pork barrel politics and the feds cut off funding.  With the money gone, she was against it.  That's like telling your boss that he can't fire you because you quit.  

But truth-telling is not what the speech was about.  It was about mobilizing the fundamentalist Christians.  I am afraid the GOP has turned the corner towards becoming a full-fledged evangelical Christianist movement.  And that may be great for a great many people, but I don't want religion driving my politics.

BRAVO CB! Only thing is that transformation started under Ronnie and peaked with Dumbya who proved what awful comes from combining religion and government. Amazing how over 200 years ago the framers of our constitution made decisions protecting us from these types. Were they smarter back then or just on the same playing field as their fellow citizens?

News: Religion has already driven our politics into the gutter and our broken government into the red. It's time to move things to blue.

http://www.poetv.com/video.php?vid=42826

Many today have told me they'd leave the country if she gets that close to the oval office. That may just be the intent of the evangelical party formerly referred to as the GOP.