The Eagles at BOK

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Ttowndad

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Rumors circulating last week indicated a 13,000 seat sales figure. They paid the Eagles 1.8 million dollars. Each "eaglette" had their own dressing room. They hardly speak to each other. Wow. Do you think they're take will be that big the second time around?
A true loss leader. No way anybody made much on this gig except the band....

"Remember the days when we stopped to decide, where we should go, we'd just ride." (Garcia/Hunter)

Most of the downtown restaurants and other businesses raked it in that night and will continue to do so on every event.  You see...when poeple go to events they don't just go from point A to point B and return home.  That's how Tulsa will profit.

Wait and we will see when the wind comes sweeping down the plain streets not to let the cold, rain, and snow cost them customers.

Is there a hallucination taking place that make posters falsely visualize a big city or even a second tier city?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.

Ten times a year is how often I go to south Tulsa...if you count India Palace at 71st and Lewis, which I do.

If I remember correctly, the BOK Arena is already booked for over 200 events for its first year in business.  (Many events have multiple shows, plus Oilers home games, etc).

You may want to re-calculate the impact on downtown...

There's plenty of parking for hockey moms and their families in the nearby parking garages since the average game draws less than 3000. BTW, kids can't go to boozeries. And besides, the kids need to get home just in case they have responsible parents.

You re-calculate. 200? And how many will feed downtown biness? The circus goers will eat at the Areama.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

Don't think 13,000 ten times a year will make a big impact on local eateries and boozeries when disposable income can only be stretched so far.

Ten times a year is how often I go to south Tulsa...if you count India Palace at 71st and Lewis, which I do.

If I remember correctly, the BOK Arena is already booked for over 200 events for its first year in business.  (Many events have multiple shows, plus Oilers home games, etc).

You may want to re-calculate the impact on downtown...

There's plenty of parking for hockey moms and their families in the nearby parking garages since the average game draws less than 3000. BTW, kids can't go to boozeries. And besides, the kids need to get home just in case they have responsible parents.

You re-calculate. 200? And how many will feed downtown biness? The circus goers will eat at the Areama.

A little off on the Oilers attendance.

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TEAM                 YESTERDAY         TOTAL  OPENINGS       AVERAGE  
Oklahoma City                        278,823        32         8,713  
Wichita                              190,372        32         5,949  
Colorado                             169,248        32         5,289  
Rio Grande Valley                    150,762        32         4,711  
Bossier-Shreveport                   149,138        32         4,660  
Arizona                              137,943        32         4,310  
Tulsa                                134,727        32         4,210  
Laredo                               130,908        32         4,090  
Corpus Christi                       120,419        32         3,763  
Youngstown                           106,687        32         3,333  
Rocky Mountain                       104,595        32         3,268  
Mississippi                          104,462        32         3,264  
New Mexico                            95,332        32         2,979  
Amarillo                              88,250        32         2,757  
Odessa                                83,650        32         2,614  
Austin                                60,800        32         1,900  
Texas                                 58,541        32         1,829

It will be quite a bit better this season.  Trust in that.

But, then again, naysayers will be naysayers.  You don't like it.  Stay away.  That's your God-given right.

As much as it is mine to applaud the decision to build it.

[marc]

I don't see how the arena discussion can be turned into a negative, it seems like things are going great. Major acts drawing fans from surrounding states. Thousands of people going downtown that were not going downtown before.

The Eagles each had their own dressing room and did not speak much? I find nothing unusual about that, they are professional musicians in a professional band, not a group of 18 year old buddies just starting a rock group. They put on a great show, so what's to complain about?

It is my understanding that these types of venues rarely make a profit, they are there to bring entertainment to cities, which brings visitors and money to cities.

And not every act that appears in a venue will sell every seat. Nine Inch Nails recently played the Ford Center in OKC with an attendance of around 8,000 according to the Oklahoman.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by marc

I don't see how the arena discussion can be turned into a negative, it seems like things are going great. Major acts drawing fans from surrounding states. Thousands of people going downtown that were not going downtown before.

The Eagles each had their own dressing room and did not speak much? I find nothing unusual about that, they are professional musicians in a professional band, not a group of 18 year old buddies just starting a rock group. They put on a great show, so what's to complain about?

It is my understanding that these types of venues rarely make a profit, they are there to bring entertainment to cities, which brings visitors and money to cities.

And not every act that appears in a venue will sell every seat. Nine Inch Nails recently played the Ford Center in OKC with an attendance of around 8,000 according to the Oklahoman.

And from what I understand, the 8000 number had nothing to do with inability to sell seats; it had everything to do with the seating layout.  Look at NIN's layout for the concert at the BOK.

[Breadburner]

Lol..13,000....The place was packed....Leave it to Fauxturd to fill a thread with excreta....

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss


And from what I understand, the 8000 number had nothing to do with inability to sell seats; it had everything to do with the seating layout.  Look at NIN's layout for the concert at the BOK.

The ford center used no upper level seating and the BOK Center is using only limited upper level seating.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by Oklahomalady

Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.

"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."

Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."

Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.

Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by Oklahomalady

Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.

"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."

Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."

Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.

Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.

Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl.  At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).

The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy.  Seat size and legroom.

But, then again, some people are always going to complain.  And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by Oklahomalady

Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.

"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."

Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."

Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.

Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.

Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl.  At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).

The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy.  Seat size and legroom.

But, then again, some people are always going to complain.  And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.

Hoss, you DID remember to remove your 10 gallon hat, didn't you?

[sgrizzle]

Apparently they haven't been to the Ford Center either. I think there is an additional 3" of legroom at the BOK.

[Miss Solemnis]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl.  At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).

Keep in mind that women usually have longer legs than men.  I'm a woman, 6'1", and suspect my legs are significantly longer than yours with my 37" inseam.  However, I know my height/leg length is not the norm and thus don't complain about inadequate (for me) seating leg room.  Perfect excuse to always buy the good seats!  []

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

quote:Originally posted by Oklahomalady

Our daughter and SIL went to the concert. They parked fairly close and paid $5. They walked to
one of the restaurants for dinner and enjoyed it.
Their $55 dollar seats were in the nose bleed section which they were expecting for that price. She tried getting better seats on opening ticket day as soon as they were open but this is what she got. They were in the 3rd row from the top.
Both of them are tiny and not over 5'8. They said there is no leg room at all in those seats. They finally got up and moved to the top to sit in an end row seat for some leg room. Later they gave that up and went down and stood in one of the exits. I'm surprised they didn't get ran off there. They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group. They felt the BOK was nice. They have been to other concerts in other cities and states so they have seen just as nice ones they said. Oh yes, like others have said, it was hot where they were at.
It takes time to get the bugs worked out I guess.

"They enjoyed the concert with the exception of having to listen to the political opinions of the group."

Oh come on. The only thing that was said the entire concert was when Joe Walsh was singing Life's been Good To Me and he sang "I have a limo, ride in the back. I lock the doors and vote for Barack."

Hell I'm a McCain supporter and I found it to be funny.

Your daughter and sister in law need to lighten up.

Wow, I'm a little over 6 feet tall and had no problems with leg room in the upper bowl.  At least no more than what already exists in our former primary venue (CC).

The lower bowl, where my season tickets are for hockey, are actually quite roomy.  Seat size and legroom.

But, then again, some people are always going to complain.  And as to the Eagles political leanings, if you didn't know how that was going to be, especially since Don Henley wrote 'Dirty Laundry' in 1983, then you obviously knew little of the group.

Hoss, you DID remember to remove your 10 gallon hat, didn't you?

Last time I checked, the post was regarding leg room.

Not head room.

But, then again, for some posters, even in a large space, that might pose a problem, given the apparent size of their craniums.

[:O]

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.

My one gripe:

Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.

According to Tulsa Today, the Eagles wanted a warm room and required the A/C turned off a day in advance.

[Ibanez]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by wavoka

Very good show. Sounded great, nice mix of old and new songs. The band looked to be having a good time, and except for the 2 drunk obnoxious blonds sitting 2 seats down from my wife and I the audience was cool as well.

My one gripe:

Did we not pay for air conditioning in the building? It was miserably hot in there.

According to Tulsa Today, the Eagles wanted a warm room and required the A/C turned off a day in advance.

I find that odd considering Don Henley made a comment after intermission saying "Feels like they finally got the air conditioning working."