Bark Park

[Trena]

Recently while at the dog park with my family, a woman was extremely rude to us, causing my daughter to cry.  My 5 year old and I were playing frizbe off to the side within the dog park and this woman made point to come over and point out the rule about not haveing kids in the park.  I explained that I know what the rule is, but that we have been comming here every weekend WITH MY DAUGHTER and never had a problem, that is why we are over here.  Long story short, she freakin called 911.  My poor daughter was crying thinking that we were going to jail.  It was really a sad ordeal.  Needless to say, we left, but we WILL continue to go there.  So everybody with a child please be ware of this crazy lady who obviously has no life.  She is about 50-60 yrs of age with a long gray braid and leathery skin.  She has a black dog and I think she considers herself the dog park police.  While we were there, she managed to point out that there was a couple of dogs who had not been nutered and even got on to a sweet couple for not picking up poop, when all they were doing was waiting for their dog to finish.  Please sound off and let me know what fellow Tulsans think.  Am I in the wrong?

[Oil Capital]

quote:Originally posted by Trena

Recently while at the dog park with my family, a woman was extremely rude to us, causing my daughter to cry.  My 5 year old and I were playing frizbe off to the side within the dog park and this woman made point to come over and point out the rule about not haveing kids in the park.  I explained that I know what the rule is, but that we have been comming here every weekend WITH MY DAUGHTER and never had a problem, that is why we are over here.  Long story short, she freakin called 911.  My poor daughter was crying thinking that we were going to jail.  It was really a sad ordeal.  Needless to say, we left, but we WILL continue to go there.  So everybody with a child please be ware of this crazy lady who obviously has no life.  She is about 50-60 yrs of age with a long gray braid and leathery skin.  She has a black dog and I think she considers herself the dog park police.  While we were there, she managed to point out that there was a couple of dogs who had not been nutered and even got on to a sweet couple for not picking up poop, when all they were doing was waiting for their dog to finish.  Please sound off and let me know what fellow Tulsans think.  Am I in the wrong?

Uhhh, Yeah.

[RecycleMichael]

The rules against having children inside the dog area are clearly posted. Did you not read the rules or did you think they didn't apply to you because you got away with breaking them before?

I am not excusing the lady being rude. But I agree with the rule in this case.

[cks511]

Yeah, she's been rude to several people including me, but I just laughed at her...I'm finding that many of the people there think they are special.  Oh well.

[Breadburner]

quote:Originally posted by Trena

Recently while at the dog park with my family, a woman was extremely rude to us, causing my daughter to cry.  My 5 year old and I were playing frizbe off to the side within the dog park and this woman made point to come over and point out the rule about not haveing kids in the park.  I explained that I know what the rule is, but that we have been comming here every weekend WITH MY DAUGHTER and never had a problem, that is why we are over here.  Long story short, she freakin called 911.  My poor daughter was crying thinking that we were going to jail.  It was really a sad ordeal.  Needless to say, we left, but we WILL continue to go there.  So everybody with a child please be ware of this crazy lady who obviously has no life.  She is about 50-60 yrs of age with a long gray braid and leathery skin.  She has a black dog and I think she considers herself the dog park police.  While we were there, she managed to point out that there was a couple of dogs who had not been nutered and even got on to a sweet couple for not picking up poop, when all they were doing was waiting for their dog to finish.  Please sound off and let me know what fellow Tulsans think.  Am I in the wrong?

Tell her to kiss your grASS....!

[AngieB]

The park has that rule to protect your daughter. A 5-year-old doesn't have a clue how to handle a dog that might become aggressive towards her. You shouldn't be taking her there. Sorry, but it's a good policy.

Now calling 911 on you was completely out of line and that's not what 911 is for -- it certainly wasn't an emergency! I hope she was reprimanded for misuse of the 911 system.

The neutering rule is also a very good one. A un-neutered male Westie tried to molest our male Schnauzer last week. It was embarrassing for the Westie's owners and he was a nuisance to us and our dog. He wouldn't leave our dog alone.

The Bark Park is a great addition to the community and our dog loves it. But if the rules aren't followed, and it becomes a playground for kids, many, including us, will stop going there.

[Nik]

Eh, I don't mind kids as long as they are under direct and immediate supervision of their parents. Luckily, I haven't had any issues at the dog park. My dog has a tendency to bark at random guys for no reason. He barked at one guy for a good 10-15 seconds and it definitely made me feel bad/awkward, but so far, that's the worst experience we've had.

On another note, what happened to the big pool? The first week it was open, there were two pools. Now only the small pool remains.

[carltonplace]

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Eh, I don't mind kids as long as they are under direct and immediate supervision of their parents. Luckily, I haven't had any issues at the dog park. My dog has a tendency to bark at random guys for no reason. He barked at one guy for a good 10-15 seconds and it definitely made me feel bad/awkward, but so far, that's the worst experience we've had.

On another note, what happened to the big pool? The first week it was open, there were two pools. Now only the small pool remains.

Park users bring the pools for everyone to use. Someone probably took it, or the wind did.

[mike1030]

Shouldn't dogs, kids, families and park all go together? what the heck? Some people just don't have a life. There's like 25 rules for the bark park and not a single rule that says "Have Fun"

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by mike1030

Shouldn't dogs, kids, families and park all go together? what the heck? Some people just don't have a life. There's like 25 rules for the bark park and not a single rule that says "Have Fun"

Yes, families should have fun with their dogs,  but there are other family dogs in the park and safety is a priority.  If you insist on your children playing with your family dog allow it in your home/yard.

Allow the dogs to enjoy themselves at the park.  Be considerate and follow the rules.  The park is for the dogs not children.  There's other parks for children around town.

[ARGUS]

could the rules be posted here? I have not been yet.

[AngieB]

http://tulsabarkpark.com/park-rules/


Park Rules / Information

The following rules and regulations are adopted by the Tulsa Park and Recreation Board for the safety and convenience of the public using an off-leash park area. Upon approval of these rules and regulations by the City Council and subsequent filing with the Office of the City Clerk and public posting at an off-leash park area, any person found guilty of violating these rules and regulations shall be subject to the penalties set forth by ordinance.

1.An "off-leash park area" is an area within a City of Tulsa park designated by the Parks & Recreation Board for the purpose of allowing dogs to roam without leashes.

2."Owner" means any person, firm or corporation in possession and control of or custody of a dog.

3.Any owner bringing a dog into an off-leash park area shall be responsible for complying with these rules and any other rule, regulation and ordinance necessary to protect the health, welfare and safety of park users.

4.An owner bringing a dog into an off-leash area is liable for and assumes the risk for the dog's conduct.

5.No person under 18 years of age shall be permitted to bring a dog into an off-leash park area.

6.For safety reasons, children must be at least 12 years old and supervised by an adult to use the dog park. Children must behave in a responsible manner: no running, chasing dogs, or petting dogs without the owner's permission.

7.A dog outside an off-leash park area shall be under the physical control of its owner by means of a leash not exceeding six (6) feet in length or be under the owner's immediate control. Dogs are recommended be kept on a leash until the owners/custodian and dog(s) are in the dog park and the entrance gates are fully closed after entry.

8.A dog within an off-leash park area shall be under the owner's immediate control. All patrons of the Dog Park must carry their leash with them at all times.

9.An owner of a dog creating a disturbance or not being properly controlled can be evicted from an off-leash park area. Upon leaving an off-leash park area, an evicted owner shall also remove his or her dog.

10.No person having been convicted of allowing a dog to bite, chase or attack any person or animal without provocation shall be permitted to bring a dog into an off-leash park area.

11.Any dog within an off-leash park area shall not be under four (4) months of age, and shall be currently vaccinated against rabies and have a current City of Tulsa license affixed or attached to the dog's collar or harness.

12.No dog more than six (6) months old which has not been spayed or neutered shall be permitted within an off-leash park area except if the dog is owned and used by the Tulsa Police Department as a police dog or the owner has secured a hobbyist exemption permit issued by the City of Tulsa.

13.No female dog "in heat" shall be permitted within an off-leash park area.

14.No dog which is injured or diseased shall be permitted within an off-leash park area.

15.Any excreta deposited in an off-leash park area shall be promptly removed and appropriately disposed by the dog's owner.

16.No vicious dog, as defined by the City of Tulsa Animal Code, shall be permitted within an off-leash park area.

17.Any dog left unattended within an off-leash park area shall be deemed "at-large" in violation of the City of Tulsa Animal Code.

18. No owner and dog shall enter or remain within an off-leash park area between one half (1/2) hour after sunset until one half (1/2) hour before sunrise except where the City of Tulsa provides an illuminated off-leash park area then a curfew extending from 11:00 PM to 5:00 AM shall be observed.

19. No dog weighing more than 30 pounds shall be permitted within an area designated for small dogs. Owners allowing their small dogs to enter a designated Large Dog Area do so at their own risk and assume responsibility for whatever damage or injury may result.

20. No food, treats, alcoholic beverages (soft drinks and water are allowed), squeaky toys, or children's toys are allowed in the dog park. This is a recreation park for dogs accompanied by their owners.

21.Smoking shall be prohibited within an off-leash park area.

22.No professional dog trainer/behaviorist shall conduct any training or business activity within an off-leash park area.

23. No more than three dogs per person on any one visit.

24. Bicycles, rollerblades, rollerskates, skateboards, and strollers are prohibited.
This is a recreation park for dogs accompanied by their owners.
(Wheel chairs are allowed.)

25. Fill in any holes your dog may dig or make appropriate repairs to disturbed areas.
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26.Playing catch (i.e., football, baseball, etc.) or using remote controlled toys, which can cause harm to the dogs in the park, is not allowed.

27.Choke, prong, pinch, and spike collars must be removed inside park area.

28.Dog behavior can be unpredictable around other dogs and strangers. For the safety of all the dogs at the parks, immediately leash your dog if it exhibits aggressive behavior and leave the dog park area. Protect yourself and your dog. If aggressive behavior is observed, take immediate action: either move your dog to another part of the park, or leave the park.

All incidents and injuries should be reported to the City of Tulsa Police Department by calling (918) 596-9222 weekdays; 8:00 a.m. – 5:00 p.m.. On weekends and holidays, please call 911

[cannon_fodder]

My dumb ***** thinks she is the uber dog.  In spite of what the Dog Whisperer says she knows I am in charge (I can take the food bowl, sit stay, etc.) and respects her "brother" and a couple other dogs we hang out with, but when a new dog comes around or we go to a park it's on.

Thoughts?
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Per the above:  the lady is a jerk.  No need to be rude about it, she simply should have said that she knows some dogs are not good with children and that is why the rule is in place.  Remind you that it is a safety issue for your daughter and a comfort issue for the dogs.

I have a boy a little older than that who is good with animals, but still not a good idea to bring him in.  99% chance nothing happens, but rules is rules.

[carltonplace]

Cannon, have you taken her to an off leash park? Dogs behave very differently when they are on their leash...they are doing what they percieve is their job: protecting you and the pack. Same thing at home; they are in protect mode.

Take her to the park, she will figure it out very quickly and have a great time. You'll be right there and if she feels threatened or scared she will run to you. Keep the leash on you and get her out if she can't handle it, but I doubt it will come to that.

[AngieB]

Carlton -- you are so right! We didn't know how Cooper was going to react to the dog park. It took him about half a second to figure it out and leave us in the dust. It was such a kick seeing him take off and run the entire park and greet every human -- he was more interested in people than the other dogs: (hey, did you meet me yet? gimme some love. OK, that's good. gotta move on, I got more people who need to see me.)

Seeing those dogs play like that is watching pure joy.