Is TulsaNow.org a Political Surrogate for Obama?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Dude, seriously. If FOTD thinks you've gone too far then it's pretty certain you have.

Sizzle by sgrizzel. Are Grizzel and Bear related?

[RecycleMichael]

I was warned by the administration to stop my attacks as well. I immediately apologized in the thread for calling friendly bear a pig.

I tried to say I was never good at animal identification, but the administrator saw through my ruse.

I have changed. Reduce, reuse, recycle and repent.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

I was warned by the administration to stop my attacks as well. I immediately apologized in the thread for calling friendly bear a pig.

I tried to say I was never good at animal identification, but the administrator saw through my ruse.

I have changed. Reduce, reuse, recycle and repent.

I Agree.

[jne]

On the one hand, you are doing a great job of destroying the credibility of all the arguments you support and since I am usually on the other side of that argument, maybe I should appreciate your presence.  However, your spamming of complete and utter BS has kept anyone from being able to have a real conversation on just about any political thread lately.  Your hatefulness and bigotry are bad enough, but the spamming has destroyed most political threads and I'd much rather have Paul Tay jumping in with some batsh#t nonsense.  I would have already sent you packing if it were up to me.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

Dude, seriously. If FOTD thinks you've gone too far then it's pretty certain you have.

Sizzle by sgrizzel. Are Grizzel and Bear related?

No.

Not even close.

Grizzle clan walks upright.

[waterboy]

That's a prestigious list of posters. I am humbled to be included.

You have in the past intrigued me with your knowledge of local politics and I'm betting we shared some classroom time in high school. But you crossed over when you started talking about johnson's, breasts, commies, and pigmentation. The hypocrisy you display is staggering.

IMO this forum has been quite gracious and benevolent in not sanctioning you.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

That's a prestigious list of posters. I am humbled to be included.

You have in the past intrigued me with your knowledge of local politics and I'm betting we shared some classroom time in high school. But you crossed over when you started talking about johnson's, breasts, commies, and pigmentation. The hypocrisy you display is staggering.

IMO this forum has been quite gracious and benevolent in not sanctioning you.

You don't really think that the list of "The Dozen" things I like about the other Candidate that I posted was entirely serious, do you?

Did we attend H.S. together?

Where'd you attend High School?

The joke about "the Michelle" I thought was pretty entertaining in a naughty way, if you allow me the liberty to admit to plagiarize a bit from the old Hillary KFC Special, "the Hillary".

Remember?

I just added a few more menu items, and raised the price.

I like my Chicken Finger Lickin' Good.

Still talking poultry, What's Sauce for the Goose, is Sauce for the Gander, since everybody hereabouts has been showing total respect and probity to the dignity of the prospective First Lady Cindy McCain, and the prospective Vice President of the U.S. Sarah Palin.

Right. Total respect?

But someone decided to start playing with fire, and I just brought the gasoline.

That's all.

I certainly do hope things can calm down so that the issues can be discussed.

However, while issues are PART of elections, so are candidates, and their skillsets:

Character.  I think that's probably first in importance.  Why?  Because the President has IMMENSE power.  Power corrupts.  Absolute power corrupts, absolutely.

Education.  Development of an individual's critical faculties.

Intelligence.  A powerful leader needs wisdom.  NOT an attribute of George W. Bush, unfortunately.

Experience.  This is a valuable form of schooling.  Even experience frequently trumps intelligence.

Good communications skills.  To persuade others to accept and implement the vision of the leader.

So, an election for President is holistic, and never JUST about the issues.

Elections being part of the constitutional law,  are also kind of like the law.  If you are losing in arguing the law, argue the facts.  And, vice versa.

If you are losing the argument on the issues, a common strategy is to argue on the qualities of the candidate.

I hope we can positively have a useful and productive discussion going forward.

Based on what's happened since last week, I am NOT the least optimistic.

[V]

[PonderInc]

Here are a few pertinet excerpts from the TN Forum rules:

Any of the following, performed on the forum, through private messages or email, will result in the deletion of messages and/or the banning of the user:

- Vulgarity: obscene or explicit content or references
- Spamming/Cross posting: off-topic or repetitive content
- Off Topic/Thread Hijacking: Replies that are off-topic or intentionally inflammatory
- Harrassment: name calling, bullying or threatening of any kind directed toward the users or staff of this forum
- Disruption: any activity that disrupts the operation or intent of this forum or web site

I think there are several people on this forum, including FB, who need to be reminded of these concepts.  And I'm fine with banning anyone who abuses them.  

Offensive and absurd rants only serve to alienate you from others, and turn off people who are interested in intelligent debate/discussion.  If you're going to be a jerk, go stand out on a city street and take your chances.  

A lot of people dedicate their time and energies to making this forum a valid and civil space for debate, discussion and information.  Why tolerate people who just want to crap on it?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by PonderInc

Here are a few pertinet excerpts from the TN Forum rules:

Any of the following, performed on the forum, through private messages or email, will result in the deletion of messages and/or the banning of the user:

- Vulgarity: obscene or explicit content or references
- Spamming/Cross posting: off-topic or repetitive content
- Off Topic/Thread Hijacking: Replies that are off-topic or intentionally inflammatory
- Harrassment: name calling, bullying or threatening of any kind directed toward the users or staff of this forum
- Disruption: any activity that disrupts the operation or intent of this forum or web site

I think there are several people on this forum, including FB, who need to be reminded of these concepts.  And I'm fine with banning anyone who abuses them.  

Offensive and absurd rants only serve to alienate you from others, and turn off people who are interested in intelligent debate/discussion.  If you're going to be a jerk, go stand out on a city street and take your chances.  

A lot of people dedicate their time and energies to making this forum a valid and civil space for debate, discussion and information.  Why tolerate people who just want to crap on it?

Timely Reminder.

EVERYONE read it??

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

For those interested, I was recently notified by a Forum Administrator that:

"This is your only warning. Unless the flaming, lashing out at others, and repetitive negative spam posts cease, your account will be locked."

Anyone DISAGREE?

Anyone else get this Warning?

Waterboy?
FOTD?
Chicken Little?
RecycleMichael?
Rico?
Hoss?
USRufNex?
Swake?
WeVsUs?
RWarn?
?

Certainly YOU got a warning, too?

Conan?
Guido?
Gaspar?
Tim Huntziger?
Iplaw?
Inteller?
Cubs?

Funny how you can only play partisan games... typical.

When you say that only gays, blacks and jews are democrats, those are insidious, partisan attacks that make me want to find your little bear hole with a submachine gun...

Them's fightin' words, and YOU know it.

Your consistent spamming and smearing Obama and anyone who supports Obama in every single  thread in which you appear makes it impossible to read any decent discussion on any thread in which you rear your ugly head.

I stopped reading and caring about the River Tax discussion on this site after you continually spammed it with consipiracy theories worthy of Alice in Wonderland...

Believe it or not, I have friends who are conservatives, and better friends of mine who FB would consider RINO's.....

Is TulsaNow.org a Political Surrogate for Obama?

No.  Only you, FB, could possibly be that paranoid.

If Obama's a Marxist, then that makes you a Nazi.

Get it?  [!]


*****While on the subject of tulsanow.org using its forum as a "Political Surrogate," I have never seen a poltical "sticky" dedicated to stumping for Obama on this forum.... but I have seen a "sticky" authored by Admin/TulsaNow appear dedicated to opposing Global Development Partners' plans for a mixed-use/soccer stadium in the East End in late 2005....

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2680

[azbadpuppy]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

For those interested, I was recently notified by a Forum Administrator that:

"This is your only warning. Unless the flaming, lashing out at others, and repetitive negative spam posts cease, your account will be locked."

Anyone DISAGREE?

Anyone else get this Warning?

Waterboy?
FOTD?
Chicken Little?
RecycleMichael?
Rico?
Hoss?
USRufNex?
Swake?
WeVsUs?
RWarn?
?

Certainly YOU got a warning, too?

Whew...well that's a relief. I was beginning to think you were a moderator.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

For those interested, I was recently notified by a Forum Administrator that:

"This is your only warning. Unless the flaming, lashing out at others, and repetitive negative spam posts cease, your account will be locked."

Anyone DISAGREE?

Anyone else get this Warning?

Waterboy?
FOTD?
Chicken Little?
RecycleMichael?
Rico?
Hoss?
USRufNex?
Swake?
WeVsUs?
RWarn?
?

Certainly YOU got a warning, too?

Conan?
Guido?
Gaspar?
Tim Huntziger?
Iplaw?
Inteller?
Cubs?

Funny how you can only play partisan games... typical.

When you say that only gays, blacks and jews are democrats, those are insidious, partisan attacks that make me want to find your little bear hole with a submachine gun...

Them's fightin' words, and YOU know it.

Your consistent spamming and smearing Obama and anyone who supports Obama in every single  thread in which you appear makes it impossible to read any decent discussion on any thread in which you rear your ugly head.

I stopped reading and caring about the River Tax discussion on this site after you continually spammed it with consipiracy theories worthy of Alice in Wonderland...

Believe it or not, I have friends who are conservatives, and better friends of mine who FB would consider RINO's.....

Is TulsaNow.org a Political Surrogate for Obama?

No.  Only you, FB, could possibly be that paranoid.

If Obama's a Marxist, then that makes you a Nazi.

Get it?  [!]


*****While on the subject of tulsanow.org using its forum as a "Political Surrogate," I have never seen a poltical "sticky" dedicated to stumping for Obama on this forum.... but I have seen a "sticky" authored by Admin/TulsaNow appear dedicated to opposing Global Development Partners' plans for a mixed-use/soccer stadium in the East End in late 2005....

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2680

I'm confused.  I thought you'd quit reading my posts.

Well, are you or aren't you?

Threatening to come after me with a submachine gun?

>>Note to Forum Administrator:  Isn't that a threat?  

Threatening someone with a submachine gun kinda sounds like a threat?

MH2010:  Is USRufNex making a Terroristic Threat?

Is this a police matter?  Please investigate accordingly.

Bravely then, let's get back to the Topic:  

In referring to the Democrat Party's three core constituencies, I did not say EVER, of those three groups as you state: "When you say that only gays, blacks and jews are democrats".

The Democrat party is as diverse as the GOP.  Both aspire to the inclusive political "big tent".

Historically, however, these three core constituencies have voted 80%+ for the Democrat ticket. That's about as CORE as a party can get.
Not even the Labor Union vote is as high.  Many of the Reagan Republicans were blue collar card-carrying Union members.

This year, there may be some changes in the voting habits of a Core constituency.....

The Jewish vote is strongly encouraged by the GOP ticket support for Israel.  Israel is always a perennial concern for American friends of this tiny Democracy surrounded by implaccably hostile undemocratic Muslim states.  

Jewish leaders well and true know that most Evangelical Christians are also very strong supporters of the State of Israel. There is very strong linkage between these two groups.

One aspect of that close friendship, there is  much tourist advertising directed towards Christian pilgrammages to Israel.  This promotes pilgrammages to continue to occur despite the Palestinian Intifada, which has scared off many European tourists and American Jewish tourists who quite reasonably fear for their very lives if they visit Israel which is currently under siege.  

These Christian testimonial pilgrammages to the Via Dolorosa, Golgotha, the Tomb, the Garden of Gesthemane, Bethlehem, Nazareth, the Gallilee, etc. where Jesus the Redeemer preached pre-supposes the continued existence of an Israel, which I STRONGLY support.  

Today's Jews are the prodgeny of the People of the Book, who provided a monumental foundation for Western Civilization. Their government remains our only consistent ally in that troubled region.

Mrs. Palin's evangelical base are much stronger supporters of Israel than those feckless, foolish Domestic Hard-core Liberals, who are enthralled with the Palestinian Cause, and have sold Israel out to their bloodthirsty enemies in the Palestinian Authority, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Al Queda.

And, then, there's Obama's name...........Barack had a Freudian slip yesterday when discussing with George Stephanophallus, and I quote Obama's exact words, "his Muslim faith".

Could that Freudian Slip make a difference in the Florida election?

Maybe.  

Check back Nov. 4.

[MDepr2007]

Wait until KT runs again and see how the admin. acts around here []

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

Wait until KT runs again and see how the admin. acts around here []

I'll use some reverse psychology for that one.

I'll come out strongly in support of Mayor Kathy Taylor.  

Forum detractors will be instantly suspicious of any political candidate that I support, and they will start negative spamming immediately, about her drunken daughter; about her history of being a Homewrecker; about her private jets. About her $31 million dollar house.

I'll mention how strongly she supported higher taxes (revenue) for government spending (investment).

How she pioneered the Public-Private partnership of the proposed Kaiser River Tax (mostly PUBLIC money);  some partnership!

Her Driller Stadium BID tax which increased taxes on downtown businesses and city/county government properties by huge percentages.

Pushed through a "settlement" of a lawsuit that the City of Tulsa was not a party to, for the full amount of the claim by Bank of Oklahoma ($7.1 million), a bank on which she served on the Board of Directors until she was elected Mayor of Tulsa.

How's this for a good start?

Only potential problem:  Staying alive.  

Fully expect USRufNex to carry through on his direct threat to use a sub-machine gun on me at any moment.

I'm updating my Last Will & Testament today.

Wonder if the Lorton's World will charge my survivors for the obligatory obituary?

It's the World's final way to screw the citizens of Tulsa.

[?]

[waterboy]

Typical. You can't even stay on topic when its a discussion of why you may be banned. Its all about your "enemies" or "enemies of the state". In the end though, its always about you. You don't even care if the discussion is about your transgressions, which you defend, as long as its about you.

Use your amazing skills of psychology and see what that suggests.