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Obama says 'enough is enough'

Started by FOTD, September 10, 2008, 11:26:49 AM

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Obama says 'enough is enough'

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/happening-now-obama-says-enough-is-enough/

CNN) — Barack Obama accused the McCain campaign of "lies" and "Swift boat" politics Wednesday, after nearly a day of claims his 'lipstick on a pig' comment was a sexist attack leveled at GOP VP candidate Sarah Palin.

"Spare me the phony outrage. Spare me the phony talk about change," Obama said at the start of an education event in Virginia. "We have real problems in this country right now. The American people are looking to us for answers, not distractions, not diversions, not manipulations. They want real answers to the real problems we are facing.

"I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and swift boat politics," he also said. "Enough is enough."

Obama's heated response came after the McCain campaign said the Illinois senator owes Palin an apology for invoking an old adage on the campaign trail Tuesday: "That's not change," Obama said, saying John McCain's policy views were similar to President Bush's. "That's just calling something the same thing something different. You know you can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig."

McCain's campaign said Obama's remarks were offensive and a slap at Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin — despite the fact that the Arizona senator himself used the phrase last year to describe a policy proposal of Hillary Clinton's.

Within minutes, the McCain campaign announced a conference call focused on the remark, which they said was a deliberate reference to Palin's line: "You know the difference between a hockey mom and a pit bull? Lipstick."

UPDATE: Responding to Obama's comments, McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said, "Barack Obama can't campaign with schoolyard insults and then try to claim outrage at the tone of the campaign."

"His talk of new politics is as empty as his campaign trail promises, and his record of bucking his party and reaching across the aisle simply doesn't exist," Rogers also said.


"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
-- Henry Louis Mencken


Conan71

Obama has already lost historical perspective of "Swift Boating" in favor of using a cliche that had mold on it before the '04 election was over.

The "Swiftboaters" didn't kill Kerry's chances at being President.  Kerry killed Kerry's chances.  Well, Edwards may have helped too.  "Swiftboating" is just a lame excuse the Dims came up with to explain away their incredibly lightweight choice of candidate.

McCain is a dumb donkey for making a big deal out of this, but Obama sounds like an even bigger dumb donkey for his mock indignation.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

cannon_fodder

and I pet PETA is pissed.  How many pigs will have to wear lipstick before this nonsense is stopped?  As president, I will pass legislation calling for the outright ban of this cruel and humiliating treatment of our food stocks!
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I crush grooves.

carltonplace

PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals

The holy cow shall rain its righteous milk upon those that deface its porcine brethren.

Gaspar

Stop it you guys!  Just stop it!


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

carltonplace


PonderInc

Ridiculous distraction and diversionary tactics on McCain's part.  We are less than 2 months away from the election.  I don't give a hoot about lipstick...on people, pigs or Mr. Potato head.

Issues, people.  

Issues matter.  This does not.

We're talking about lipstick b/c McCain and Palin don't want to or can't talk policy.

Breadburner

quote:
Originally posted by PonderInc

Ridiculous distraction and diversionary tactics on McCain's part.  We are less than 2 months away from the election.  I don't give a hoot about lipstick...on people, pigs or Mr. Potato head.

Issues, people.  

Issues matter.  This does not.

We're talking about lipstick b/c McCain and Palin don't want to or can't talk policy.



Lol...Now thats funny....
 

HoneySuckle

Mrs. Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska!

The woman is a right-wing, self-righteous idiot.  She wants to take women back to the dark ages with her ideas.  Women should have a CHOICE, and that's Pro-choice, not anti-choice.

 

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Mrs. Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska!

The woman is a right-wing, self-righteous idiot.  She wants to take women back to the dark ages with her ideas.  Women should have a CHOICE, and that's Pro-choice, not anti-choice.





Her personal belief is anti-abortion.  She has never tried to legislate her personal belief into her work, FAIK.

Women do have a choice.  That choice has stood for 35 years and through 23 or so years of GOP admins and Supreme Court picks virtually unchanged.  You got nothing to worry about.  This is such a red herring issue amongst deeply conservative and deeply liberal voters, but obviously an emotional one.

Interesting.  The NOW types would only support a woman President or VP who is liberal.  Sounds like they want only believe in one dogma instead of accepting many ideas, as if Gov. Palin's stance on abortion makes her any less of a woman.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Mrs. Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska!

The woman is a right-wing, self-righteous idiot.  She wants to take women back to the dark ages with her ideas.  Women should have a CHOICE, and that's Pro-choice, not anti-choice.





Her personal belief is anti-abortion.  She has never tried to legislate her personal belief into her work, FAIK.

Women do have a choice.  That choice has stood for 35 years and through 23 or so years of GOP admins and Supreme Court picks virtually unchanged.  You got nothing to worry about.  This is such a red herring issue amongst deeply conservative and deeply liberal voters, but obviously an emotional one.

Interesting.  The NOW types would only support a woman President or VP who is liberal.  Sounds like they want only believe in one dogma instead of accepting many ideas, as if Gov. Palin's stance on abortion makes her any less of a woman.




And yet again, the argument dilutes itself into one about the veep choice.

I'm not blaming you Conan; I enjoy your introspect and sometimes find myself kept in check by you.

But like many people, this is about McCain's camp, or any camp for that matter, manipulating the MSM when it's perfectly obvious that McCain made this same 'lipstick on a pig' comment to refer to Hillary's health care program in the past.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too with this.  This time the MSM cried 'nope' for a change.

And then, when you have Bill O and other conservative factions of the media calling BS on this, it's like a epiphany of the media.  When left and right agree on something.

Like dogs and cats living together...oh, wait a minute, someone already used that analogy last week.

[8D]

USRufnex

quote:
Originally posted by cannon_fodder

and I pet PETA is pissed.  How many pigs will have to wear lipstick before this nonsense is stopped?  As president, I will pass legislation calling for the outright ban of this cruel and humiliating treatment of our food stocks!



Freudian?



pmcalk

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Mrs. Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska!

The woman is a right-wing, self-righteous idiot.  She wants to take women back to the dark ages with her ideas.  Women should have a CHOICE, and that's Pro-choice, not anti-choice.





Her personal belief is anti-abortion.  She has never tried to legislate her personal belief into her work, FAIK.

Women do have a choice.  That choice has stood for 35 years and through 23 or so years of GOP admins and Supreme Court picks virtually unchanged.  You got nothing to worry about.  This is such a red herring issue amongst deeply conservative and deeply liberal voters, but obviously an emotional one.

Interesting.  The NOW types would only support a woman President or VP who is liberal.  Sounds like they want only believe in one dogma instead of accepting many ideas, as if Gov. Palin's stance on abortion makes her any less of a woman.




It's not that NOW would only support a "liberal"; they will only support a person who supports women's issues.  That includes equal pay for equal work, accessible & affordable healthcare, paid family leave, etc....  You might call them liberal; they call them the issues that directly affect women and are critical to improving their lives.

Wouldn't you think lesser of a group who only supported a candidate based upon a gender test?  Would you expect a member of the Eagle Forum to support a liberal female candidate?

I am glad you have such faith that Roe v. Wade won't be overturned.  I am not so sure.  Remember, the Supreme Court moves very, very slowly.  Generally, the Supreme Court will not overturn itself immediately.  However, recent decisions by the more conservative court has begun to chip away at the right.

Do you believe that McCain was just pandering when he said that he would only appoint Supreme Court Justices like Alito and Scalia?  If we have a few more judges like them, I have no doubt that the right to privacy will fly out the window.
 

Conan71

#13
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Mrs. Hockey Mom needs to stay in Alaska!

The woman is a right-wing, self-righteous idiot.  She wants to take women back to the dark ages with her ideas.  Women should have a CHOICE, and that's Pro-choice, not anti-choice.





Her personal belief is anti-abortion.  She has never tried to legislate her personal belief into her work, FAIK.

Women do have a choice.  That choice has stood for 35 years and through 23 or so years of GOP admins and Supreme Court picks virtually unchanged.  You got nothing to worry about.  This is such a red herring issue amongst deeply conservative and deeply liberal voters, but obviously an emotional one.

Interesting.  The NOW types would only support a woman President or VP who is liberal.  Sounds like they want only believe in one dogma instead of accepting many ideas, as if Gov. Palin's stance on abortion makes her any less of a woman.




And yet again, the argument dilutes itself into one about the veep choice.

I'm not blaming you Conan; I enjoy your introspect and sometimes find myself kept in check by you.

But like many people, this is about McCain's camp, or any camp for that matter, manipulating the MSM when it's perfectly obvious that McCain made this same 'lipstick on a pig' comment to refer to Hillary's health care program in the past.  You cannot have your cake and eat it too with this.  This time the MSM cried 'nope' for a change.

And then, when you have Bill O and other conservative factions of the media calling BS on this, it's like a epiphany of the media.  When left and right agree on something.

Like dogs and cats living together...oh, wait a minute, someone already used that analogy last week.

[8D]



As mentioned, this was a baby tussle, both sides should have ignored the other.  It will be forgotten quickly.  

I took Sen Obama's comment for what it was, used the same as many of us use it in our daily vernacular.

Took me awhile to find it, pure classic:

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

we vs us

Alright seriously, do you Republican guys have secret databases for your political photoshops?  This is like the umpteenth one that I've never seen before (and god help me, hope I never see again).

Do you somehow get these from talk radio?  Explain.