Karen Keith v. Sally Bell

[1956packard]

Aloha and Lawzee:

Bob, his dad, Robbie, and sally know
the amusement business quite well
the ride they had a thousand and one knights
they learned about it from a trade magazine
and bought it in Germany while on a motorcycle
tour of Europe
folks you try and run a small mom and pop
amusement park with one monkey holding
one of your arms behind your back and another monkey on your back

Aloha and Lawzee

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by 1956packard

Aloha and Lawzee:

Bob, his dad, Robbie, and sally know
the amusement business quite well
the ride they had a thousand and one knights
they learned about it from a trade magazine
and bought it in Germany while on a motorcycle
tour of Europe
folks you try and run a small mom and pop
amusement park with one monkey holding
one of your arms behind your back and another monkey on your back

Aloha and Lawzee

Friday's a.m.'s Pat Campbell Show on KFAQ-AM had Pat reciting from a letter sent to the station by County Commissioner Candidate Karen Keith DECLINING their invitation to come on the show for a radio debate between the two candidates.

Pat had offered both General Election candidates the same radio forum as the two GOP Primary candidates accepted before Sally Bell trounced incumbent Commissioner Randi Miller in the GOP Primary.

What's Karen Keith AFRAID of?  

She's a trained teleprompter reader with 20 years TV experience as a News Reader.

Does Keith think that all she needs to win is to use her FIVE-FOLD fund raising advantage to buy the Media off?

Keith:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by 1956packard

Aloha and Lawzee:

Bob, his dad, Robbie, and sally know
the amusement business quite well
the ride they had a thousand and one knights
they learned about it from a trade magazine
and bought it in Germany while on a motorcycle
tour of Europe
folks you try and run a small mom and pop
amusement park with one monkey holding
one of your arms behind your back and another monkey on your back

Aloha and Lawzee

Friday's a.m.'s Pat Campbell Show on KFAQ-AM had Pat reciting from a letter sent to the station by County Commissioner Candidate Karen Keith DECLINING their invitation to come on the show for a radio debate between the two candidates.

Pat had offered both General Election candidates the same radio forum as the two GOP Primary candidates accepted before Sally Bell trounced incumbent Commissioner Randi Miller in the GOP Primary.

What's Karen Keith AFRAID of?  

She's a trained teleprompter reader with 20 years TV experience as a News Reader.

Does Keith think that all she needs to win is to use her FIVE-FOLD fund raising advantage to buy the Media off?

Keith:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

Might as well call KFAQ Fox News Tulsa...oh, wait they do!

How about some place less right-leaning.

How about PBS?

Or would that not be bi-partisan enough for you, quadruped?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by 1956packard

Aloha and Lawzee:

Bob, his dad, Robbie, and sally know
the amusement business quite well
the ride they had a thousand and one knights
they learned about it from a trade magazine
and bought it in Germany while on a motorcycle
tour of Europe
folks you try and run a small mom and pop
amusement park with one monkey holding
one of your arms behind your back and another monkey on your back

Aloha and Lawzee

Friday's a.m.'s Pat Campbell Show on KFAQ-AM had Pat reciting from a letter sent to the station by County Commissioner Candidate Karen Keith DECLINING their invitation to come on the show for a radio debate between the two candidates.

Pat had offered both General Election candidates the same radio forum as the two GOP Primary candidates accepted before Sally Bell trounced incumbent Commissioner Randi Miller in the GOP Primary.

What's Karen Keith AFRAID of?  

She's a trained teleprompter reader with 20 years TV experience as a News Reader.

Does Keith think that all she needs to win is to use her FIVE-FOLD fund raising advantage to buy the Media off?

Keith:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

KEITH:  DEBATE.

Might as well call KFAQ Fox News Tulsa...oh, wait they do!

How about some place less right-leaning.

How about PBS?

Or would that not be bi-partisan enough for you, quadruped?

Well, both were invited.  Karen Keith declined.

I heard the earlier KFAQ debate between Miller vs. Bell.

Pat Campbell was the paragon of fairness.  

He asked straight-forward questions.

Allowed the respondent plenty of time to answer.

He didn't appear to be biased.

In fact, he's so new to Tulsa that he probably doesn't know 1/10 of the things that Randi Miller has been accused of:  Bell's Amusement Park ouster after 53 years; Murphy Carney Cash Flow Problem and Borg-land; Vision 2025 Tax Cheerleader; The "Channels" Tax Cheerleader; The Kaiser River Tax Cheerleader.

Oh, and for the Icing on the Cake:  The Lorton's World outed Randi "Randy" Miller's frolic with her Pool Boy, Asst. Publik Werkes Direktor Buchert.

"Oh, you missed a spot, darling.  A little more oil where it's most needed......."

Mrs. Buchert was NOT amused.

And, besides, Campbell arrived long after Karen Keith was a faded local TV news reader.....



[}:)]

[waterboy]

You know the political games Bear. If the race is close she should debate Bell anywhere. Its not, so why risk being trapped on a station that has a history of ignorance and bias? And why even mess with radio when more effective medium is available?

[MDepr2007]

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

Hmmm. Interesting non-response.

I'd sure like to know where all these ratings he's touting are. I just looked at the latest data on Radio and Records (owned by ACNielsen, which knows a few things about ratings). KFAQ's ratings in the past two reporting periods are 2.6 and 2.8, which is down substantially from the 2007 ratings of well over 3.0.

KFAQ now ranks 15th in the Tulsa market -- ouch.

Meanwhile, the KRMG station he derides is consistently in the top two or three of the market and beats KFAQ in the ratings by a 3-to-1 ratio.

Nevermind the facts, apparently.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

Hmmm. Interesting non-response.

I'd sure like to know where all these ratings he's touting are. I just looked at the latest data on Radio and Records (owned by ACNielsen, which knows a few things about ratings). KFAQ's ratings in the past two reporting periods are 2.6 and 2.8, which is down substantially from the 2007 ratings of well over 3.0.

KFAQ now ranks 15th in the Tulsa market -- ouch.

Meanwhile, the KRMG station he derides is consistently in the top two or three of the market and beats KFAQ in the ratings by a 3-to-1 ratio.

Nevermind the facts, apparently.

Heh, just wait for Mudschlock to chime in:

"Unless you are a paid subscriber to Arbitron, you are just talking out your donkey.  You don't have the full picture of the Tulsa radio ratings..."

Technically, Arbitron, not Neilson is the yardstick used by the stations and ad agencies in Tulsa unless something has changed.  I just remember CM challenging RM on ratings a few months ago, claiming to have great ratings (which he would never reveal).

I see PC seems to have a similar personality disorder to Mudschlock.

[Hoss]

When it comes right down to it, if I'm going to watch debates for candidates, radio has got to be the WORST forum to use.

I mean, I use visual mediums to look at a candidates body language, whether or not he/she is looking at the mediator directly.  Does the candidate appear nervous?  Things like that.

Imagine having the Kennedy vs Nixon debate over radio.  While Kennedy probably still would have won, he may not have won the amount of people needed.  Nixon looked scared sh*tless and nervous.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

Hmmm. Interesting non-response.

I'd sure like to know where all these ratings he's touting are. I just looked at the latest data on Radio and Records (owned by ACNielsen, which knows a few things about ratings). KFAQ's ratings in the past two reporting periods are 2.6 and 2.8, which is down substantially from the 2007 ratings of well over 3.0.

KFAQ now ranks 15th in the Tulsa market -- ouch.

Meanwhile, the KRMG station he derides is consistently in the top two or three of the market and beats KFAQ in the ratings by a 3-to-1 ratio.

Nevermind the facts, apparently.

Comparing Apples and Oranges again, RWarn.

A STATION's rating is NOT the same as a Show's rating.  You are confusing the two.  Let me HELP you unconfuse yourself.

There are 24 hours in the Day, not just 3 hours in the a.m. with Pat Campbell.  

Remember, KRMG has Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity in the afternoon.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

Hmmm. Interesting non-response.

I'd sure like to know where all these ratings he's touting are. I just looked at the latest data on Radio and Records (owned by ACNielsen, which knows a few things about ratings). KFAQ's ratings in the past two reporting periods are 2.6 and 2.8, which is down substantially from the 2007 ratings of well over 3.0.

KFAQ now ranks 15th in the Tulsa market -- ouch.

Meanwhile, the KRMG station he derides is consistently in the top two or three of the market and beats KFAQ in the ratings by a 3-to-1 ratio.

Nevermind the facts, apparently.

Comparing Apples and Oranges again, RWarn.

A STATION's rating is NOT the same as a Show's rating.  You are confusing the two.  Let me HELP you unconfuse yourself.

There are 24 hours in the Day, not just 3 hours in the a.m. with Pat Campbell.  

Remember, KRMG has Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity in the afternoon.

Don't remind me; I just ate...

[:O]

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I sent an email to PC about his ranting on KK declining:

quote: To: Pat Campbell
Earlier this week you mentioned that McCain should not have gone on a certain talk show. Why blast a candidate for a lesser elected position for not going on your talk show where she has nothing to gain in some views......

Just good radio ?

His response

quote: Big difference! First of all McCain did go on, she didn't. I'm not the lesser show, KRMG would be, I am the show and the fall ratings will bear that out. She needs to go on my show for the same reasons Hillary & Obama went on O'Reilly. Karen has made a big mistake, you can't win District 2 with just Democrats you need crossover Republicans. You're a funny little guy, too bad you won't be laughing on Novermber 4th.

~Best
Pat Campbell
Host of The Pat Campbell Show
Heard mornings 6:00 to 9:00AM CT
on 1170 KFAQ Tulsa, OK
http://1170kfaq.com/patcampbell.html
Ph: 918-743-7814 Ext. 124

Typical avoiding of the original question

Hmmm. Interesting non-response.

I'd sure like to know where all these ratings he's touting are. I just looked at the latest data on Radio and Records (owned by ACNielsen, which knows a few things about ratings). KFAQ's ratings in the past two reporting periods are 2.6 and 2.8, which is down substantially from the 2007 ratings of well over 3.0.

KFAQ now ranks 15th in the Tulsa market -- ouch.

Meanwhile, the KRMG station he derides is consistently in the top two or three of the market and beats KFAQ in the ratings by a 3-to-1 ratio.

Nevermind the facts, apparently.

Comparing Apples and Oranges again, RWarn.

A STATION's rating is NOT the same as a Show's rating.  You are confusing the two.  Let me HELP you unconfuse yourself.

There are 24 hours in the Day, not just 3 hours in the a.m. with Pat Campbell.  

Remember, KRMG has Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity in the afternoon.

Don't remind me; I just ate...

[:O]

The Tulsa Beacon this week has a front-page article detailing County Commissioner Candidate Karen Keith's refusal to participate in a debate sponsored by KFAQ-AM.

Why is a polished former TV news reader afraid to debate a grandmother?

Additionally, Keith is apparently also refusing an interview request by a Tulsa Beacon reporter.

Why's she hiding?

Here's the link:

http://www.tulsabeacon.com/?p=950

[RecycleMichael]

I think any candidate has the right to refuse an interview.

This station has promoted her opponent non-stop for weeks. How many times has Sally been on?

Why whould any candidate go on under those circumstances? Just because you have a microphone or a blog web site doesn't mean you can make demands of the candidate.

When you promote the opponent or attack the candidate, you don't get to act like your are a real journalist.

[Wrinkle]

Some thought Keith had something to say.
....guess not.


To extrapolate would indicate same-O, same-O.

Maybe she should just sign up for TSF Queen if all we want is a pretty face.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Some thought Keith had something to say.
....guess not.


To extrapolate would indicate same-O, same-O.

Maybe she should just sign up for TSF Queen if all we want is a pretty face.

Like I have said before, have them both on PBS which is non partisan and have it televised. Having a debate on radio is asinine in this day and age of television.

I'm sure KFAQ, in true Fox affliate fashion, will be lobbing softballs at Sally for the next 40 days.

That being said, I understand why she is refusing to have the debate on KFAQ.