Palin: To know her is to not like her so much

[pmcalk]

Now that the dust has settled, and more is learned about Palin, apparently people aren't so crazy about this lying, moose-eating woman.  According to Newsweek, her favorability ratings are dropping, while her unfavorable ratings are rising.  My guess is that as people realize she doesn't have a clue about foreign affairs, that she lied about the bridge to nowhere and earmarks, and that she is refusing to cooperate with an investigation into her abuse of power, the novelty will rub off, and people will recognize what a stupid, political choice she was.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx

Apparently, even conservative commentators have concerns about her selection:

quote:McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091502406.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

quote:Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Oh, and apparently Palin doesn't have enough experience to run a company, but running the free world isn't an issue (advice to Ms. Fiornia—apparently, you don't have enough experience to run a company, either)

[Wrinkle]

Getting a good chuckle...

Dems are worried....really worried.

Rightly so.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Getting a good chuckle...

Dems are worried....really worried.

Rightly so.

Wow, that was an astute response.

We were just worried that the media wasn't going to get over their 'Palingasm'....looks like it cigarette time!

[tim huntzinger]

Well, I think her choice was great for the grassroots, but at this point I am wondering if her choice was the best idea.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Getting a good chuckle...

Dems are worried....really worried.

Rightly so.

Too bad they don't devote as much time to researching their own candidate.  I guess associating with terrorists like Ayers, slum lords like Rezco and insurrectionists like Farrakhan isn't interesting enough to investigate.

They prefer to focus on the real issues...[xx(]

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Getting a good chuckle...

Dems are worried....really worried.

Rightly so.

Too bad they don't devote as much time to researching their own candidate.  I guess associating with terrorists like Ayers, slum lords like Rezco and insurrectionists like Farrakhan isn't interesting enough to investigate.

They prefer to focus on the real issues...[xx(]

Ha!  That's the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it?

About like the time the McCain camp spent vetting their veep choice?

[Hometown]

Did you see Pat Buchanan's column entitled "The Neocons' Palin Project" in today's TulsaWorld talking about how key Neocons have been working with Palin to transform her into a Neocon?

I have had several hard core local Republicans tell me all they want is their party back.  They don't want the Religious Right and they don't want the Neocons.

But apparently the Republican Party is not interested in any kind of course correction moving their party back towards the center.

They are missing out on their chance to reinvent themselves in the wake of their Baby Bush disaster.

Good news for Democrats -- who have become the party of the silent majority.

Meanwhile, Palin is clearly in over her head.

In a way I feel sorry for her.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

Now that the dust has settled, and more is learned about Palin, apparently people aren't so crazy about this lying, moose-eating woman.  According to Newsweek, her favorability ratings are dropping, while her unfavorable ratings are rising.  My guess is that as people realize she doesn't have a clue about foreign affairs, that she lied about the bridge to nowhere and earmarks, and that she is refusing to cooperate with an investigation into her abuse of power, the novelty will rub off, and people will recognize what a stupid, political choice she was.

http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/16/palin-s-favorability-ratings-begin-to-falter.aspx

Apparently, even conservative commentators have concerns about her selection:

quote:McCain has soiled all that. His opportunistic and irresponsible choice of Sarah Palin as his political heir -- the person in whose hands he would leave the country -- is a form of personal treason, a betrayal of all he once stood for. Palin, no matter what her other attributes, is shockingly unprepared to become president. McCain knows that. He means to win, which is all right; he means to win at all costs, which is not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/15/AR2008091502406.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

quote:Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/16/opinion/16brooks.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Oh, and apparently Palin doesn't have enough experience to run a company, but running the free world isn't an issue (advice to Ms. Fiornia—apparently, you don't have enough experience to run a company, either)

PM- a challenge to you. Can you name any redeeming qualities Joe Biden has, and what substance he could bring to the White House instead of constantly crapping on Palin?  Last I checked, he's running for the same office she is, not Obama.

Usually running down the opponent is the result of not having enough good things to say about your own candidate.  It deflects attention from the weaknesses or lack of substance in one's own candidate.  Must be the case here as I didn't see you defending Obama or Biden very much on other recent threads started on them.

Your obsession w/ Palin borders on needing latex.

[Hometown]

Thought I jump in here and add by 2 cents to your question:

Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

Vice-Presidential candidates have traditionally taken a more assertive stance than the presidential candidates during the campaigns.  They were and are the original surrogates.

[iplaw]

quote:Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

So by the same logic should McCain get a pass because he's got a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for even longer?

[Hometown]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

So by the same logic should McCain get a pass because he's got a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for even longer?

Like a lot of Democrats I like McCain and as you say we have had a chance to watch him in action for a long time now.  And I do think McCain wants to be better than his party.

But one of things that watching McCain over the years has taught me is that he says one thing and does another.  He grabs headlines with a statement but when it comes time to vote he backtracks and sides with his party.

McCain talks the talk but does not walk the walk.

When you nominated McCain I was hopeful it meant you were ready to move towards the center but that has not been the case.

Instead of McCain changing your party, your party is changing McCain -- for the worse.

Unfortunate for you and for the nation.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

So by the same logic should McCain get a pass because he's got a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for even longer?

That's not the point of the thread.

It's frightening that someone who tries to ban books because of her faith can get this far in national politics.  Hopefully people are starting to realize that.

The book banning is the one thing that scares me the most.  I'm sure there are a number of reasons she shouldn't be where she is.

She's the biggest reason I've got to not vote Republican this term.  

As long as she's the Republican VP candidate I plan on tossing my vote to the electoral college wolves and watch it float away into a world of meaninglessness.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

So by the same logic should McCain get a pass because he's got a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for even longer?

That's not the point of the thread.

It's frightening that someone who tries to ban books because of her faith can get this far in national politics.  Hopefully people are starting to realize that.

The book banning is the one thing that scares me the most.  I'm sure there are a number of reasons she shouldn't be where she is.

She's the biggest reason I've got to not vote Republican this term.  

As long as she's the Republican VP candidate I plan on tossing my vote to the electoral college wolves and watch it float away into a world of meaninglessness.

Assuage your fears:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

I think it's been pointed out to you numerous times that the "book banning" fairy tale is a fabrication.  Are you still afraid of falling off the edge of the earth?

I can't help you if you can't or won't inform yourself.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Biden has a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for some time now.

So by the same logic should McCain get a pass because he's got a long record of public service and has lived in the public eye for even longer?

That's not the point of the thread.

It's frightening that someone who tries to ban books because of her faith can get this far in national politics.  Hopefully people are starting to realize that.

The book banning is the one thing that scares me the most.  I'm sure there are a number of reasons she shouldn't be where she is.

She's the biggest reason I've got to not vote Republican this term.  

As long as she's the Republican VP candidate I plan on tossing my vote to the electoral college wolves and watch it float away into a world of meaninglessness.

Assuage your fears:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

I think it's been pointed out to you numerous times that the "book banning" fairy tale is a fabrication.  Are you still afraid of falling off the edge of the earth?

I can't help you if you can't or won't inform yourself.

It's been pointed out to you that it's not a fabrication.  

I'm not asking for your one-sided fairy tale help.  I don't trust her and it blows my mind that anyone falls for her crap.

Following party lines because otherwise you'd be proven wrong is asinine.

Being uppity, self important, and dismissive to anyone not going along with your ideals is not helping your cause.

[Townsend]

"The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question"

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

Why bring it up if you weren't interested in doing it?

That's close enough for me to say she's a book banner.

"city residents rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew her termination letter"

Apparently her townsfolk thought so as well.