North Tulsa v South Tulsa

[Ibanez]

If you live at 121st & Memorial you are either living in McDonald's, Pizza Hut, Drug Warehouse or a BOK that is going up.

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quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

Since when did North Tulsa start at 41st street?  That is the most idiotic thing I've read today.  Tulsa is divided into 5 parts.  North, South, East, West and midtown/downtown.  The way I see it, North Tulsa starts at Admiral.

Many articles have used the 41st street as the dividing line of the N-S of the local economy.   Tulsa's expansion of business and high dollar homes with the above average income families, is to South of 41st including West of the river.   The development to the North of 41st is at standstill.  The expansion to the East, although, there is much vacant land is negative.   The only exception is that the Midtown "God little acreage" is being converted with taxpayers money to an ever duplicating entertainment Mecca.

Suppose the description should be the "Old Tulsa Town compared  to the new Tulsa Town from 41st ".    

[Husker013]

If you think about it, where can you find a Starbucks north of 41st street?

There's about 94-billion of them south of 41st.

Just a thought...

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by Husker013

If you think about it, where can you find a Starbucks north of 41st street?

There's about 94-billion of them south of 41st.

Just a thought...

If I am not mistaken, the first freestanding Starbucks was the one in Utica Square.

[carltonplace]

Also Downtown at the Crowne Plaza hotel, but I'd rather have Topeca please.

[izmophonik]

35th & Peoria or Utica Square if you're looking north of 41st for a Starbucks.  Financial indicators might indicate the city is divided by certain areas but physically speaking the "North Side" will never start at 41st street.

[AMP]

What is a Starbucks?

[bbriscoe]

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

35th & Peoria or Utica Square if you're looking north of 41st for a Starbucks.  Financial indicators might indicate the city is divided by certain areas but physically speaking the "North Side" will never start at 41st street.

I don't think there are any North and East of the BA.  The BA might be a better divider since there is still some amount of civilization in Brookside (on the south side of the BA), but when you get further east, there isn't much point in English language advertising.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:Originally posted by izmophonik

35th & Peoria or Utica Square if you're looking north of 41st for a Starbucks.  Financial indicators might indicate the city is divided by certain areas but physically speaking the "North Side" will never start at 41st street.

I don't think there are any North and East of the BA.  The BA might be a better divider since there is still some amount of civilization in Brookside (on the south side of the BA), but when you get further east, there isn't much point in English language advertising.

You obviously are in your own little microcosm.  I live out east and you make it sound like it's Tijuana when that absolutely isn't the case.  There are little pockets of that, but I've seen that everywhere, not just east.

Just another case of midtown elitism.

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[AMP]

I am mainly near Admiral and Sheridan/Yale area and have never seen a Starbucks store or what ever it is.  

I get everything I have needed in the past 10 years within 5 miles of my location.  I do order a few specialty items such as tickets and wrist bands online.  Most everything else comes from local distributors that are located nearby.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by AMP

I am mainly near Admiral and Sheridan/Yale area and have never seen a Starbucks store or what ever it is.  

I get everything I have needed in the past 10 years within 5 miles of my location.  I do order a few specialty items such as tickets and wrist bands online.  Most everything else comes from local distributors that are located nearby.

Same goes for me, AMP.  I am aware of Starbucks, but have never been inside one.  I think I was in a local Java Dave's about 10 years ago.  3-4-5 bucks for a cup of coffee?  There truly is one born every minute.

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by AMP

I am mainly near Admiral and Sheridan/Yale area and have never seen a Starbucks store or what ever it is.  

I get everything I have needed in the past 10 years within 5 miles of my location.  I do order a few specialty items such as tickets and wrist bands online.  Most everything else comes from local distributors that are located nearby.

Same goes for me, AMP.  I am aware of Starbucks, but have never been inside one.  I think I was in a local Java Dave's about 10 years ago.  3-4-5 bucks for a cup of coffee?  There truly is one born every minute.

But it's "upscale". It has to be worth it.

[PonderInc]

South Tulsa is the place where, by the time you get there, you just want to go back home.

[Jonette]

You know, I am 41 y.o. and grew up in Tulsa. As far back as my memory can take me, parents and teachers taught children and students that the dividing line between North Tulsa and South Tulsa was Admiral. It was how they started teaching their kids to get around town, 41st was part of South Tulsa. You had Southland Mall and Southroads Mall. I grew up in NORTH Tulsa, 61st Street North and Cincinnati and it was a BIG DEAL to go to Southroads Mall.Yes I am white and was a minority where I grew up, but it taught me invaluable lessons growing up in that environment and graduating from Mclain High School.

I just feel that moving the North South dividing line is just a way to put 41 more blocks into the section of town that everyone can forget.

There should be NO "DIVIDING LINE" ,except for directional purposes.

[Double A]

I've met folks that think anything north of 51st is North Tulsa and I've met folks that think anything south of Pine is South Tulsa.