Huge planning failure by everyone involved

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by marc

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

All the naysayers who said Tulsa couldn't fill an arena must be surprised by the crowds at The Eagles, American Idol and Get Motivated events. It seems to me that the heavy traffic was just another sign of success.

The arena has yet to be filled as in everyseat sold.
Eagles had 14,000 something, the motivation seminar was 16,000 something.
I'm sure someday they'll get all 18,000 to 20,000 but it hasn't happened yet...

As Hoss noted, The Eagles was definitely a sold out show, all the local media outlets covered it. The tickets were gone in just a few hours, and there were many complaints that scalpers had bought a portion of them.

Newschannel 8 reported that American Idols was sold out on the night of the show, but perhaps that was inaccurate.

You said "fill" not "sold out"  heck The Brady is sold out tonight. With your switch in direction that would put them equal to the arena just because they sold out...  

[marc]

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

All the naysayers who said Tulsa couldn't fill an arena must be surprised by the crowds at The Eagles, American Idol and Get Motivated events. It seems to me that the heavy traffic was just another sign of success.

The arena has yet to be filled as in everyseat sold.
Eagles had 14,000 something, the motivation seminar was 16,000 something.
I'm sure someday they'll get all 18,000 to 20,000 but it hasn't happened yet...

As Hoss noted, The Eagles was definitely a sold out show, all the local media outlets covered it. The tickets were gone in just a few hours, and there were many complaints that scalpers had bought a portion of them.

Newschannel 8 reported that American Idols was sold out on the night of the show, but perhaps that was inaccurate.

You said "fill" not "sold out"  heck The Brady is sold out tonight. With your switch in direction that would put them equal to the arena just because they sold out...  

Your point doesn't make much sense.  Different events have different configurations.  It's not like they are trying to defraud the public by changing the seating configuration based on tickets sold.  Go to the BOk center web site and look at the configurations for different types of concerts, notably the differences between how it will be set up for Metallica, the Eagles, and Nine Inch Nails.


Eagles tickets were a hot commodity.  They would have sold more if the configuration allowed for it.

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

[marc]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

"The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house."

The date of that show was September 6.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

Lookin' in the mirror right now maybe?

[unknown]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

your posts are always bleak and don't really say anything

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by marc

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

"The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house."

The date of that show was September 6.

LOL  ok you win []   I didn't know they opened up behind the stage. You should let the local paper know about that [:O]

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by marc

It's not a switch in direction. By "fill" I meant fill all the available seats for a given event. Yes, the number of available seats will change depending on the stage configuration. The Eagles was a sold out show and a full house.

The September 24 Tulsa World editorial summed things up pretty well, in my opinion.

With just under 6,000 empty seats

I just checked on seats for the Nov. 11th Eagles on was able to find floor seats and also middle yellow sections

Can you read a calendar?  You do realize that there are 6 weeks left until this event right?

You guys crack me up (arena naysayers, that is).  You were so sure this was going to be a big white elephant; now that it's actually doing what is was supposed to, instead of being happy for it, you ask why an event by a band who was just here has sold 8000 seats but still has 6000 left (or so you say).

Go live out in the country and stay away from urbia...sheesh.

I love it when people jump in , say this and that and still don't have a clue why what is being said..... Must have gone to collegesheeshh

Lookin' in the mirror right now maybe?

Nope... you're the one who is twisting things being said

[Michael71]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

According to Six In The Morning, about eight people got their cars towed for parking on private property Monday morning.  One lady they interviewed was blaming her poor parking choice on the city.

Nothing like personal responsibility and common sense ma'am.

Thank you Conan!!!  I was in shock when I saw that bit on TV.  If someone parked in her front yard for an event down the street, would she have their car towed?...Absolutely.

[Breadburner]

Someone show me an arena thats failed.....

[Michael71]

Alot of the traffic problem was because people aren't used to going downtown.  Everyone tried to use the Denver exit instead of side streets, etc...  Denver was a bottleneck...& backed up the highways.

I also believe that the economic impact of the arena will far out weigh the occasional inconvenience.

...after all, they were mostly "sprawl-dwellers" that have the God-given right to park at the front door.

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by MichaelWayne_71


...after all, they were mostly "sprawl-dwellers" that have the God-given right to park at the front door.

Is that what I smelled?