The Bailout

[cks511]

Sullivan, Lucas and Fallin were OK noes

Boren and Cole the OK ayes

[swake]

Treasurys soar, credit pipes frozen
http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/29/markets/bondcenter/treasury_prices/index.htm?postversion=2008092914

Dow down 700 points

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/

European banks are beginning to fail, worldwide stock markets down 7 – 13%

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/7837686

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

She apparently doesn't own a watch...

They are saying this speech is the reason 2/3rds of the Republicans voted no.

Can't watch it at work, so I'll withhold opinion, but will say that if it only took a speech to derail this vote, then it was probably headed for disaster already.

It was. The Pelosi gambit is a cynical ploy. House leaders were informed this morning that they wouldn't have their half of the votes necessary. They figured 70 or less.

They not only ***** slapped their president but left their presidential candidate hung out to dry.

Nitwits.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
Thanks for the link, but I'd have to research who's up for reelection.  I don't want to know that badly.

You are aware this was a house vote right?

What's your point?

[bbriscoe]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
Thanks for the link, but I'd have to research who's up for reelection.  I don't want to know that badly.

You are aware this was a house vote right?

What's your point?

The entire house is up for reelection every 2 years.  Know your civics/govt.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

She apparently doesn't own a watch...

They are saying this speech is the reason 2/3rds of the Republicans voted no.

Can't watch it at work, so I'll withhold opinion, but will say that if it only took a speech to derail this vote, then it was probably headed for disaster already.

I agree.  Had to be a shaky plan, but the speech was inflammatory and very very stupid.  She was making an attempt to deflect blame and use the opportunity to bash the Republicans, and the administration.

It was by far the dumbest thing I have ever seen a politician do.  All she had to do was shut her yapper and the vote would have passed.  Then Barney (not the dinosaur) came out and blamed the Republicans again, even though it was his fellow Democrats that fled from the bill.  

This is what we get.  We as a people will certainly learn from this.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

They had the vote locked up for approval, but then Pelosi gave a lead-up speech that made those on the Right angry, and those on the left nervous.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/184803.html

You go girl!

Poison the well right before the vote!

I wonder if she will ever be elected to anything ever again?

Are you KIDDING ME  Even assuming you are correct, what does that say about the house republicans?  They are so upset about a speech, they decided to risk the American economy?

Do they have any idea how petty they look?

To the House Republicans:  If you want to not vote for the bill because you don't think its necessary, you don't think it will work, fine, though I think you are wrong.  But to not vote for a bill out of some sort of political spite, well that is childish and dangerous.  You need to be thrown out of office.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

They had the vote locked up for approval, but then Pelosi gave a lead-up speech that made those on the Right angry, and those on the left nervous.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/184803.html

You go girl!

Poison the well right before the vote!

I wonder if she will ever be elected to anything ever again?

Are you KIDDING ME  Even assuming you are correct, what does that say about the house republicans?  They are so upset about a speech, they decided to risk the American economy?

Do they have any idea how petty they look?

To the House Republicans:  If you want to not vote for the bill because you don't think its necessary, you don't think it will work, fine, though I think you are wrong.  But to not vote for a bill out of some sort of political spite, well that is childish and dangerous.  You need to be thrown out of office.

Most didn't intend to vote for it anyway.  But You're right a few of them did turn tail.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
Thanks for the link, but I'd have to research who's up for reelection.  I don't want to know that badly.

You are aware this was a house vote right?

What's your point?

The entire house is up for reelection every 2 years.  Know your civics/govt.

I don't seem to recall ever mentioning that ALL of these idiots were up for reelection.  I wanted to know how many who voted against the bill were up for reelection.

You should read the thread first before posting.

[RecycleMichael]

I think this whole thing sounds like a bad TV sitcom.

Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae sound like characters from a Beverly Hillbillies show.

Weren't they part of the band with the old guy playing the jug? What was their name...the Lehman Brothers jug band?

Even President Bush has a brother named Jeb...probably like Jed Clampett...of course, no one ever speaks about the other brother Neil...the one who caused the largest Savings and Loan failure in American history...

That treasury Secretary sure looks and sounds like Mr. Drysdale...

Please...somebody change the channel...

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

They had the vote locked up for approval, but then Pelosi gave a lead-up speech that made those on the Right angry, and those on the left nervous.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/184803.html

You go girl!

Poison the well right before the vote!

I wonder if she will ever be elected to anything ever again?

Reminds me of the speech from Harry Reid the other day where he chided the insertion of presidential politics and then in the next breath, inserted presidential politics by attacking McCain.

Both sides of this suck.

The "King Paulson" bill sucked, the democrats "Heavy and Bloated" version sucked, and the dems and repubs who voted against it won't come out and say the bills sucked and why.  

Lastly, I don't want to hear one more of these stupid mother f'ers blame anyone else for a collective problem.

In fact, I don't want to hear about who caused this again until they fix the problem.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
Thanks for the link, but I'd have to research who's up for reelection.  I don't want to know that badly.

You are aware this was a house vote right?

What's your point?

The entire house is up for reelection every 2 years.  Know your civics/govt.

I don't seem to recall ever mentioning that ALL of these idiots were up for reelection.  I wanted to know how many who voted against the bill were up for reelection.

You should read the thread first before posting.

Please think about this.

Everyone who voted "No" is up.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

They had the vote locked up for approval, but then Pelosi gave a lead-up speech that made those on the Right angry, and those on the left nervous.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/184803.html

You go girl!

Poison the well right before the vote!

I wonder if she will ever be elected to anything ever again?

Are you KIDDING ME  Even assuming you are correct, what does that say about the house republicans?  They are so upset about a speech, they decided to risk the American economy?

Do they have any idea how petty they look?

To the House Republicans:  If you want to not vote for the bill because you don't think its necessary, you don't think it will work, fine, though I think you are wrong.  But to not vote for a bill out of some sort of political spite, well that is childish and dangerous.  You need to be thrown out of office.

Does Chatty Nancy Doll have any idea how petty she sounded?

This **** used to be done without sounding as pathetic and pedantic as the House of Commons.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by bbriscoe

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
Thanks for the link, but I'd have to research who's up for reelection.  I don't want to know that badly.

You are aware this was a house vote right?

What's your point?

The entire house is up for reelection every 2 years.  Know your civics/govt.

I don't seem to recall ever mentioning that ALL of these idiots were up for reelection.  I wanted to know how many who voted against the bill were up for reelection.

You should read the thread first before posting.

Please think about this.

Everyone who voted "No" is up.

That's what I was asking for.  Do you have any proof of this or are you just assuming?  I think it's a safe bet to assume so, but I wanted to know.

Either way, it shows that people who are about to be held accountable are scared of their constituents and that a GOOD thing.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

They had the vote locked up for approval, but then Pelosi gave a lead-up speech that made those on the Right angry, and those on the left nervous.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/184803.html

You go girl!

Poison the well right before the vote!

I wonder if she will ever be elected to anything ever again?

Are you KIDDING ME  Even assuming you are correct, what does that say about the house republicans?  They are so upset about a speech, they decided to risk the American economy?

Do they have any idea how petty they look?

To the House Republicans:  If you want to not vote for the bill because you don't think its necessary, you don't think it will work, fine, though I think you are wrong.  But to not vote for a bill out of some sort of political spite, well that is childish and dangerous.  You need to be thrown out of office.

Does Chatty Nancy Doll have any idea how petty she sounded?

This **** used to be done without sounding as pathetic and pedantic as the House of Commons.

To be honest, I didn't see ANY partisanship out of the speech..granted I just read it.  Even a GOP staffer agrees.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=Y2FlNmI0YjhmMmEyMjNkZGU2ZTBkNjhhYjQ2NGE0MDU=

So, if it comes down to someone getting their panties in a bunch over perceived partisanship, it's time those someone's leave DC and let people with the big-boy pants step up.