SpiritBank Event Center

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by joiei

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by tulsapoolplyr88

Exiting from the parking garage was a cluster.  (what event isn't?)  But, otherwise, looked like a nice facility.

Exiting any kind of suburban events facility is a giant clusterf***. Thousands of people all going toward one exit.

It's the funnel traffic flow of suburban housing developments multiplied by 1,000.

Downtown venues have that going for them: spread out parking and lots of streets going lots of different directions.

after the Zig Zigler disaster you have the gall to post that bull****?  Just ****.

I drove by Regal Plaza when it was filling up and when it was emptying out and it was nothing, NOTHING, like the complete and total failure that happened downtown last Monday.  I moved 50 feet in 30 minutes last Monday.  NO COMPARISON.

Here is people's real beef with Spirit Events Center....it was built with no -direct- taxation of the public.  If it is a failure taxpayers aren't left holding a silver toilet bowl.  The Oligarchy WANT SEC to fail because it competes for a certain segment of acts that could play in the BOk.

That's what you get for thinking there is only one entrance and one exit from downtown.  Have you tried going into downtown from Peoria or from the north side of the IDL?  There are many different approaches to downtown, you just have to get away from South County to find them.

My destination 100 W 1st St was ****ed in all directions so save that bull**** for the funny papers you ****.....but go ahead and reply with something really stupid like "well you should just have just parked somewhere else that day"  Oh yeah, I'll just inconvienence myself to accomodate a ****ing failure in planning.

My god, do you just get completely stupid and naive the closer you live to downtown?

Just a point; I don't think 34000 people work close to downtown Bixby.

nope, which further disproves the BS statements about traffic being bad at Regal Plaza...SPE definitely has its advantages.

[TheArtist]

Why is it that it seems to be ok to ***** about "sitting in traffic" (at 2 different venues in the entire city) and say its a planning failure... but if you want to walk anywhere, bike, take mass transit, etc. its not a planning failure and your likely a nut?

***** all ya want about sitting in traffic, until pedestrians in this town get equal consideration, you have no ground to stand on imho. The majority of this city is "planned" around cars and traffic, not around pedestrians, people and places, or mass transit.

Waaa Waaaa Waaaa, the sky is falling, I had to sit in traffic for 30 minutes. OMG the sky is falling. What a bunch of freaks. [xx(]

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by joiei

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by tulsapoolplyr88

Exiting from the parking garage was a cluster.  (what event isn't?)  But, otherwise, looked like a nice facility.

Exiting any kind of suburban events facility is a giant clusterf***. Thousands of people all going toward one exit.

It's the funnel traffic flow of suburban housing developments multiplied by 1,000.

Downtown venues have that going for them: spread out parking and lots of streets going lots of different directions.

after the Zig Zigler disaster you have the gall to post that bull****?  Just ****.

I drove by Regal Plaza when it was filling up and when it was emptying out and it was nothing, NOTHING, like the complete and total failure that happened downtown last Monday.  I moved 50 feet in 30 minutes last Monday.  NO COMPARISON.

Here is people's real beef with Spirit Events Center....it was built with no -direct- taxation of the public.  If it is a failure taxpayers aren't left holding a silver toilet bowl.  The Oligarchy WANT SEC to fail because it competes for a certain segment of acts that could play in the BOk.

That's what you get for thinking there is only one entrance and one exit from downtown.  Have you tried going into downtown from Peoria or from the north side of the IDL?  There are many different approaches to downtown, you just have to get away from South County to find them.

My destination 100 W 1st St was ****ed in all directions so save that bull**** for the funny papers you ****.....but go ahead and reply with something really stupid like "well you should just have just parked somewhere else that day"  Oh yeah, I'll just inconvienence myself to accomodate a ****ing failure in planning.

My god, do you just get completely stupid and naive the closer you live to downtown?

I guess I do.  I didn't realize that you are so important that you might possibly require a police escort into downtown to do your business.  And what is so bad about parking a few blocks away and taking a walk?  Again, I ask what was it like back when downtown was the place where everything happened?  Did the world stop just because you might have an appointment downtown?  I would bet that you do not stop at one of the big Box stores in south Tulsa unless you can park right at the front door.  God forbid that you have to walk an extra 20 feet.

[DolfanBob]

Just an observation. I have not been in the Spirit Bank Center, but I saw it on The News on Six when they were talking with a rep about the grand opening. Is it me or does it look like a glorified High School Gymnasium. If thats the case why not just rename the UMAC and start having concerts there. Sounds like it holds about the same amount of people.

[Kashmir]

IS IT POSSIBLE...
To see shows both at the BOK and the SpiritBank place as your whims desire?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To be happy there are now 2 concert venues serving different needs when a year ago they did not exist?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To realize exiting a parking garage after an event takes a lil' bit o' time, no matter where you are?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
For the midtowners and Southies to quit baggin' on each other already?  Geez.  They are both good to live.  They both have good food.  They both have a different flavor.  They both have decent schools.  Move on already!

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Kashmir

IS IT POSSIBLE...
To see shows both at the BOK and the SpiritBank place as your whims desire?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To be happy there are now 2 concert venues serving different needs when a year ago they did not exist?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To realize exiting a parking garage after an event takes a lil' bit o' time, no matter where you are?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
For the midtowners and Southies to quit baggin' on each other already?  Geez.  They are both good to live.  They both have good food.  They both have a different flavor.  They both have decent schools.  Move on already!

Kashmir - see here: http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11510

[TheTed]

quote:Originally posted by DolfanBob

Just an observation. I have not been in the Spirit Bank Center, but I saw it on The News on Six when they were talking with a rep about the grand opening. Is it me or does it look like a glorified High School Gymnasium. If thats the case why not just rename the UMAC and start having concerts there. Sounds like it holds about the same amount of people.

It does look like a high school gym with a nicer entryway.

The UMAC holds more people, 5,600 to 4,500 for SpiritBank. (This is according to each venue's website.)

[marc]

quote:Originally posted by Kashmir

IS IT POSSIBLE...
To see shows both at the BOK and the SpiritBank place as your whims desire?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To be happy there are now 2 concert venues serving different needs when a year ago they did not exist?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
To realize exiting a parking garage after an event takes a lil' bit o' time, no matter where you are?
IS IT POSSIBLE...
For the midtowners and Southies to quit baggin' on each other already?  Geez.  They are both good to live.  They both have good food.  They both have a different flavor.  They both have decent schools.  Move on already!

Impossible for some to be happy. Unhappy with tax payer funded arena, unhappy with privately funded event center.

They won't be happy until they live in a village out in the panhandle with no concerts, no events, no traffic jams.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by joiei
 And what is so bad about parking a few blocks away and taking a walk?  

pancakes?  Is it not possible to make it clear enough for you?  I am trying to get to my PAID parking spot!  You think I should just forfeit my PAID parking for a day and go PAY to park somewhere else because a bunch of people with low self esteem all need to come downtown and get motivated?  I tell you what, you buy out my paid parking for the days they want to cluster**** everything around 1st/Boulder and I'll park 10 minutes away and walk...deal?

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

The place only holds 3500?

Did you read the article Conehead?

Just another citizen subsidized maintenance nussance. The devil bets a name change will be in order some day. Remy? Rhymes with Reem Me?

Thank gawd the Shangra lah lah financiers pulled the plug before that deal got too far down the sheetter....
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080929_12_A13_hTheta246902

Tulsa World's numbers were suspect.  Every other outlet called it a sell-out.

Now, what does Pete Boylan's project have to do with this and what is your obsession with Remy?  Did he try and screw some sand mites out of some $$$?

No Coron....corporate welfare in both cases.....the one's taking the risk are school children. Wouldn't expect you to get it.[]

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by DolfanBob

Just an observation. I have not been in the Spirit Bank Center, but I saw it on The News on Six when they were talking with a rep about the grand opening. Is it me or does it look like a glorified High School Gymnasium. If thats the case why not just rename the UMAC and start having concerts there. Sounds like it holds about the same amount of people.

It does look like a high school gym with a nicer entryway.

The UMAC holds more people, 5,600 to 4,500 for SpiritBank. (This is according to each venue's website.)

 That is probably the typical arena configuration for basketball games.  Does the UMAC even go for concerts like ZZ Top and STP?  I've never heard of such.  UMAC goes for stuff like home and garden shows and stuff that just needs raw floor space.  Traffic is never fun around UMAC when it is having one of those shows....but it is still better than a Zig Ziglar show on a Monday morning downtown.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

pancakes?  Is it not possible to make it clear enough for you?  I am trying to get to my PAID parking spot!  You think I should just forfeit my PAID parking for a day and go PAY to park somewhere else because a bunch of people with low self esteem all need to come downtown and get motivated?  I tell you what, you buy out my paid parking for the days they want to cluster**** everything around 1st/Boulder and I'll park 10 minutes away and walk...deal?

So you have a problem with your parking lot operator. He oversold his product.

So why have you been whining for a week blaming the arena, the city, and the Mayor?

Where do you park and who do you pay for your parking spot?

Maybe you should direct some of your anger toward them. Never mind, I am sure they have already heard from you.

[inteller]

[EDIT]....you just don't get it.  parking wasnt the problem for me.  GETTING to the parking was the problem.[V]

[HazMatCFO]

I applaud Remy for building a multi-purpose facility without taxpayer money.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by HazMatCFO

I applaud Remy for building a multi-purpose facility without taxpayer money.

He got a TIFF