Biden v palin debate...let's get ready to mumble

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

87% of Fox News viewers thought Sarah Palin won the debate... cough, cough...

Is that all??

Rudy said, essentially, she kicked Biden's donkey bad.  We all know Rudy isn't in the tank for the Republicans, right?

[Neptune]

I had Biden the winner, he won a couple of major points I think.  Again, different scenario from 2000 or 2004, Palin might have broke even or won back then.  Biden seemed to throw Palin off her game only once or twice.  

But, getting through it without severely screwing up was a victory for Palin.  She did what she needed to do I think.  I don't think she won too many new voters over for McCain, she probably shored up the base.  But after the last couple weeks, not collapsing the campaign was probably a victory.

Awaiting October Revelations.  Feeling for Palin, a loss on this VP gamble has the chance of ending her political future.

[Gaspar]

She came off as a very strong leader.  Made eye contact with Gwen, the camera and Mr. Biden (actually made him nervous).  She answered every question and took control of the debate.

She got him flustered, and it caused him to come off as a real shifty politician.

He made false remarks (lied straight out) on 3 points.  She smiled and shook her head when he did, but did not attempt to correct him.  THAT'S AWSOME. That shows me that she understands strategy.  She actually let him dig his own holes and crawl in them without her help.  That will be what is really picked up on in the up-coming ads.

My favorite quote was something to the effect

"I'm Joe Biden, people know me, I've been here for 36 years, I've never changed, and I'm not going to change.  Obama/Biden is the real party of change."

. . .Blank stare and pause from Gwen and Palin. . . (beer spit-take in my living-room).

This morning the Politician to English interpreters are attempting to tell us what "Biden Really Meant" when he said the things he said.  Palin has not required "interpreters" this morning.  I think she has really embraced the Straight Talk philosophy.  

[TulsaFan-inTexas]

I have to give Biden the win on this one. I was not impressed with Palin, and I was hoping for more from her.

However, I did not watch the entire debate and it's entirely possible Palin came out strong in the second half.

Oh, and I thought Gwen did a good job as moderator.

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

She came off as a very strong leader.  Made eye contact with Gwen, the camera and Mr. Biden (actually made him nervous).  She answered every question and took control of the debate.

In fact, she didn't answer the questions, and made a point of saying she wasn't going to answer the questions.  She talked about what she had rehearsed without responding to whay Gwen asked.

Not that most politicians don't do that.  She just took it to the extreme.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

She came off as a very strong leader.  Made eye contact with Gwen, the camera and Mr. Biden (actually made him nervous).  She answered every question and took control of the debate.

In fact, she didn't answer the questions, and made a point of saying she wasn't going to answer the questions.  She talked about what she had rehearsed without responding to whay Gwen asked.

Not that most politicians don't do that.  She just took it to the extreme.

Don't get dizzy there, Gas.  You might think that the General in Afghanistan is McClellan instead of McKiernan.

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[pmcalk]

I just have to add, I really didn't like her winking at the camera.  Is she trying to get a date or running for vp?  Totally inappropriate.

All in all, if you like someone who is folksy, lacks any track record, can make cute remarks with very little substance, and can wink at the camera, she's your gal.

Biden, despite his flaws, can do more than scratch the surface.

[waterboy]

Anyone watch the graph representing the group of Ohio undecideds responding in real time to the debate? On CNN.

I was impressed with it and thought it was reflective of my own impressions. Then I listened to the group interviewed by one of the reporters. Sad. They are most likely undecided about everything in life.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I just have to add, I really didn't like her winking at the camera.  Is she trying to get a date or running for vp?  Totally inappropriate.

All in all, if you like someone who is folksy, lacks any track record, can make cute remarks with very little substance, and can wink at the camera, she's your gal.

Biden, despite his flaws, can do more than scratch the surface.

Let's not forget the ability to 'shout out' to her peeps!

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[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I just have to add, I really didn't like her winking at the camera.  Is she trying to get a date or running for vp?  Totally inappropriate.

I assumed she wanted me and millions of Americans to go up to her room afterwards with a bottle of champagne.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I just have to add, I really didn't like her winking at the camera.  Is she trying to get a date or running for vp?  Totally inappropriate.

I assumed she wanted me and millions of Americans to go up to her room afterwards with a bottle of champagne.

Heh, now that's funny.  I've been searching all over for a photo of when she and Biden were chatting face-to-face after the debate to illustrate the thought I had last night.

Biden: "So, uh, Sarah is it?  How'd you like to join me in my suite for a little debriefing?"

Palin: "Let me get back to you on that, Joe"

Anyone else notice her body mic was left open after the debate for about 30 sec or so?  I was cringing just waiting for her to say something like: "Yessiree Bob, I sure skinned him like a moose!"  or "So Dad, you think I kicked his donkey?"

Reaction to the debate is pretty much as I was expecting, those with their minds made up and are voting for Obama think Biden won or had an advantage, those in the tank for McCain think Palin won or had an advantage.

She accomplished what she needed to which was overcome her Gibson and Couric interviews.  She inspired more confidence in the GOP base and might get some leery GOP voters off the fence.  With the rabid treatment from Democrats ever since the convention, there was no way she was going to earn enough points with Dem voters to sway them to vote for McCain.

Where I saw Biden's advantage was he did come off more kindly and less arrogant for most of the debate, which I think, increased his appeal to Inds and likely some GOP's who have only followed media accounts of him.

This was an opportunity for each party to feel better about their running mate, nothing more, nothing less.  

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by pmcalk

I just have to add, I really didn't like her winking at the camera.  Is she trying to get a date or running for vp?  Totally inappropriate.

I assumed she wanted me and millions of Americans to go up to her room afterwards with a bottle of champagne.

Va va va voom!

[tim huntzinger]

I could not believe she told Biden - whose first wife was killed in a car crash - that his 'new' wife's reward was 'in heaven.'  Outside of that I think she did awesome.  The base stays with the Ticket.

[Townsend]

Sometimes there were non-answers and sometimes there were wrong answers.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_el_pr/debate_fact_check

I was impressed with both of them.  I was actually surprised by Palin.

[RecycleMichael]

This was my favorite answer...

Ifill:...the next question is to talk about the subprime lending meltdown.

Who do you think was at fault? I start with you, Governor Palin. Was it the greedy lenders? Was it the risky home-buyers who shouldn't have been buying a home in the first place? And what should you be doing about it?

Palin:  One thing that Americans do at this time, also, though, is let's commit ourselves just every day American people, Joe Six Pack, hockey moms across the nation, I think we need to band together and say never again.

I guess I don't understand her folksey answer...Is she blaming hockey moms...or was this a subtle attack on Biden implying that he drinks a six pack?