Tonight---Round #3--will anyone watch?

[pmcalk]

The third and final debate is tonight.  Will McCain "take off the gloves"?  Will we hear anything new?  Or will it be another snoozer?  I predict that the numbers watching will be pretty low.  People's attention span is wearing thin, and they are ready to vote already.

I read that Colin Powell will endorse one of the candidates after the debate, and speculation is that it will be Obama.

[grahambino]

he's just going to say 'my friends' approximately 1215 times with a more authoritative tone.

Maybe some, EGHs!?

EGH?!

EGH?!

[iplaw]

How about the squishy middle?  CBS told me that there are still people who haven't made up their minds yet...

[mrburns918]

McCain take off the gloves for this debate? I can't help but think that NObama will be well prepared if this does happen. Also, I keep wondering when the NObama camp is going to spring the Alaskan Independence Party issue. Granted Scott, not Sarah was a member up until 2002 but Sarah has said some mighty nice things about a group that hates America with a passion. The guilty by association rule should also play here ala Ayers.

Is this really an issue? Well, it is if Scott Palin has the influence that he claims he has in Sarah's administration. (see troopergate)

Then again, NObama may keep playing it safe and stay the course talking about those crazy pointless issues like the economy.

Would I have voted for McCain? "You betcha(wink)[xx(] if he would have picked a vice president who wasn't a complete moron. I hope the taste of the religious right taint was worth it. What a sell out.

Can you tell I am still bitter over the 2000 Republican primary? []

Mr. Burns
Bob Barr for President

[carltonplace]

Or as the Daily Show referred to the undecided: "stupid"

John Oliver - "These people are idiots. You can't trust a word they say, and on November 4th the election will be in their hands.

The Daily Show

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by mrburns918

McCain take off the gloves for this debate? I can't help but think that NObama will be well prepared if this does happen. Also, I keep wondering when the NObama camp is going to spring the Alaskan Independence Party issue. Granted Scott, not Sarah was a member up until 2002 but Sarah has said some mighty nice things about a group that hates America with a passion. The guilty by association rule should also play here ala Ayers.

Is this really an issue? Well, it is if Scott Palin has the influence that he claims he has in Sarah's administration. (see troopergate)

Then again, NObama may keep playing it safe and stay the course talking about those crazy pointless issues like the economy.

Would I have voted for McCain? "You betcha(wink)[xx(] if he would have picked a vice president who wasn't a complete moron. I hope the taste of the religious right taint was worth it. What a sell out.

Can you tell I am still bitter over the 2000 Republican primary? []

Mr. Burns
Bob Barr for President

I have been tempted to vote for Barr and still think McCain was the wrong choice, but compared to Obama, McCain is the lesser of the two "big government" loving evils.

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

Both options suck.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

On another thread, I posted that it was found by a nonpartisan group that McCain will have *larger* deficits than Obama.

So how is Obama bigger-bigger, when his deficits will be smaller?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11787

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

On another thread, I posted that it was found by a nonpartisan group that McCain will have *larger* deficits than Obama.

So how is Obama bigger-bigger, when his deficits will be smaller?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11787

Deficits are only one facet relating to the size of government, and as I said before, I don't really care for either of them.  I'm just not interested in voting for the guy who tells a small business owner that he wants to "spread the wealth around."  

No thanks comrade.

BTW, the Tax Policy Center is NOT a non-partisan group.  They are an offshoot of the Brookings Institute, which even the NYTimes describes as a liberal organization.

Just because a group claims to be nonpartisan doesn't make it so.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

On another thread, I posted that it was found by a nonpartisan group that McCain will have *larger* deficits than Obama.

So how is Obama bigger-bigger, when his deficits will be smaller?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11787

Deficits are only one facet relating to the size of government, and as I said before, I don't really care for either of them.  I'm just not interested in voting for the guy who tells a small business owner that he wants to "spread the wealth around."  

No thanks comrade.

BTW, the Tax Policy Center is NOT a non-partisan group.  They are an offshoot of the Brookings Institute, which even the NYTimes describes as a liberal organization.

Just because a group claims to be nonpartisan doesn't make it so.

Those are raw, solid numbers that the Tax Policy Institute is putting up. Numbers don't have partisan leanings. If you want to poke holes or refute the actual numbers, by all means do so.

[mrburns918]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

On another thread, I posted that it was found by a nonpartisan group that McCain will have *larger* deficits than Obama.

So how is Obama bigger-bigger, when his deficits will be smaller?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11787

Deficits are only one facet relating to the size of government, and as I said before, I don't really care for either of them.  I'm just not interested in voting for the guy who tells a small business owner that he wants to "spread the wealth around."  

No thanks comrade.

BTW, the Tax Policy Center is NOT a non-partisan group.  They are an offshoot of the Brookings Institute, which even the NYTimes describes as a liberal organization.

Just because a group claims to be nonpartisan doesn't make it so.

IMO, both candidates are comrades. See 700 billion "spread" bailout.

Mr. Burns
Bob Barr for President

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

Those are raw, solid numbers that the Tax Policy Institute is putting up. Numbers don't have partisan leanings. If you want to poke holes or refute the actual numbers, by all means do so.

There are no such things as "raw, solid numbers" from policies that haven't been enacted yet.  The numbers in the link you provided are speculative forecasts.

[Conan71]

I think I will pretend to be German tonight instead.  I pretty much know the substance of this one.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

I think I will pretend to be German tonight instead.  I pretty much know the substance of this one.

No need to pretend.  You are a NAZI aren't you?

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

McCain wants smaller-bigger goverment and Obama wants bigger-bigger goverment.  

On another thread, I posted that it was found by a nonpartisan group that McCain will have *larger* deficits than Obama.

So how is Obama bigger-bigger, when his deficits will be smaller?

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11787

Deficits are only one facet relating to the size of government, and as I said before, I don't really care for either of them.  I'm just not interested in voting for the guy who tells a small business owner that he wants to "spread the wealth around."  

No thanks comrade.

BTW, the Tax Policy Center is NOT a non-partisan group.  They are an offshoot of the Brookings Institute, which even the NYTimes describes as a liberal organization.

Just because a group claims to be nonpartisan doesn't make it so.

Those are raw, solid numbers that the Tax Policy Institute is putting up. Numbers don't have partisan leanings. If you want to poke holes or refute the actual numbers, by all means do so.

C'mon, we all know that reality has a well known liberal bias.  []

[pmcalk]

Polls show once again Obama won, by a significant margin.

CNN
CBS

I actually expected that the polls wouldn't have McCain doing so badly this time around, but I guess his personality/mannerism just turn people off.  And they are tired of all the attacks.

McCain certainly has his work cut out for him now.  How in the world is he suppose to turn this around?  People have watched him and Obama now in three seperate debates.  Each time, people become more comfortable with Obama, and like McCain less.