Pretty Interesting Twist for Obama = Oct Surprise?

[Wrinkle]

Obama and DNC in for default judgement, admission of irregularities

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Obama and DNC in for default judgement, admission of irregularities

In that case, neither the D or R candidates are eligible to be President, since McCain was born in the Canal Zone.

Either that, or both are, since being a US citizen at birth (or founding of the USA, whichever came first, otherwise our first three presidents weren't actually eligible) makes you a natural born citizen.

It's amazing what the yahoos will come up with.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Obama and DNC in for default judgement, admission of irregularities

Mr. Berg has been going at this now for at least three months.  I heard his shpiel on 1170 overnight one night and several people hammered him for it.

It's actually kinda funny.  I mean seriously, think about it.  As a US Senator, both candidates are obviously screened by Homeland Security for clearance levels.  When is the last time a foreigner was given a top secret clearance level?  I can't think of one.

That's no October surprise.  Berg has been at this since at the very least July.

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[waterboy]

Nathan, McCain received a ruling that approved citizenship even though he was born out of the country. A quick check of the citizenship issue for Obama shows it to be bogus. FactCheck.com has done as much as it can to show such but the nut jobs keep it going. This guy really takes the cake for stretching. It goes nowhere but into the forum posts of true believers.

You know McCain is an alien don't you? He's a bug wearing one of those human bodies like the giant bug in "Men In Black". Explains the jerky body movements and the odd facial twitches. Pass it on.[]

[guido911]

As I recall, Obama and DNCC filed a motion to dismiss in that case. I suspect they will argue that answering discovery would have been tantamount to a general appearance in the case, which would be contrary to issues raised in the motion to dismiss.  

This Berg thing has been getting traction in the really right wing media (Savage), but I think it is a loser. Berg is a loser IMHO.

[Hawkins]

Reading between the lines, I think that whacko wanted Hillary on the Dems' ticket, and that's his motivation for all this.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

But hey, if you can sue a dry-cleaner for millions of dollars over a pair of ruined pants... why not try something this crazy?

Gotta love America!

[GG]

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D941NCJG0.html

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by unreliablesource

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D941NCJG0.html

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."

If you go to this moron's website, he's now saying he will appeal to the US Supreme Court.

Wow.

[Wrinkle]

Of course he is.

Frankly, I'm hangin' with him.
Just on the fact that someone, somewhere should vet candidates, especially for U.S. Pres. and Congress.

If he's really not a U.S. Citizen, wouldn't you want to know?

Appears now that supposed proof provided by the Obama campaign is of questionable origin, at least.

What's wrong with seeing the actual documents?

Holding out only gives the appearance of something to hide.

For a Judge to suggest a citizen/voter has no standing seems a bit odd as well, much less to actually rule on that basis.

...off to the SC.

But, it does look like it's all oriented toward stalling tactics until after the election, at which time it either won't matter, or the person in charge will gain control.

We're screwed.

btw, is Judge R. Barclay Surrikthe same person as Bob Surrick("Robert B. Surrick, Esq") here?

If so, appears his disbarment was restored at some point.

[Wrinkle]

This will rail some, but I found it interesting this week as Obama scheduled a week ahead (last Sunday) to travel to Hawaii to see his 'ailing' grandmother on Thursday-Friday, who was stated to likely "not last days".

Was hoping her fate isn't politically correct,
when one realizes she is the only living person who claims to have been in the delivery room when Obama was delivered....in Kenya.


SOME BACKGROUND

Frankly, I don't know what to believe, but do believe the proof/truth is out there and should be revealed.

[rwarn17588]

Jeez Louise.

Nothing like aligning yourself to goofy conspiracy theories to shred whatever credibility you had left.

This stuff is has about the same high standing at the "9/11 Truth" movement.

[RecycleMichael]

I love their "proof".

A radio DJ has an audio recording of a woman saying she is Obama's mother saying he was born outside of the United States.

Sound like real "evidence"?

[guido911]

I am unsure what to make of this latest bit of evidence surrounding Obama's "spread the wealth around" comment since I do not have the context and the tape is obviously a part of a long dialogue. Still, it is what it is regarding the redistribution of wealth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

[pmcalk]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

This will rail some, but I found it interesting this week as Obama scheduled a week ahead (last Sunday) to travel to Hawaii to see his 'ailing' grandmother on Thursday-Friday, who was stated to likely "not last days".

Was hoping her fate isn't politically correct,
when one realizes she is the only living person who claims to have been in the delivery room when Obama was delivered....in Kenya.


SOME BACKGROUND

Frankly, I don't know what to believe, but do believe the proof/truth is out there and should be revealed.

Good lord, you're desperate.  Obama has already provided copies of his birth certificate.  You can see it here:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

If you are going to spread a smear, you should at least make it sound plausible.  School records show that Obama's father attended school in Hawaii until 1962, when he transferred to Harvard.  In 1962, Ann moved from Honolulu to Seattle.  At no time did they live in Kenya.  So why would she have left the US, fly to Kenya, just too have a baby?  Because of the superior medical care in Africa???  Please.

[RecycleMichael]

Maybe she was having pregnancy cravings for Kenya food. It is so hard to find real ugali in Hawaii.