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Started by guido911, November 22, 2008, 10:05:07 AM

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guido911

So much for D.C. area public schools for Obama:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/obamas-pick-sid.html

And don't give me that "security" crap. Every parent should have the ability to send their children to a private school for whatever reason. Of course, Obama will having nothing of that.

http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obama-tells-teachers-union-he-opposes-vouchers/81801/
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

waterboy

1. He's a president for gawd's sake! Are there no perks acceptable for people who have climbed to the top?

2. My kids don't need the same security as the POTUS kids and I wouldn't want others to have their school experience ruined by having SS agents and papparazi injected into their lives.

3. This private school provides a superior education and they can afford it. Do you believe that all schools, public or private should be arbitrarily equalized to correct for wealth? If so, you sort of discard any incentive for excellence.

Honestly, I don't think they had much choice.

we vs us




This doesn't have anything to do with the thread but I've been looking for an excuse to post, anyway.  Enjoy!


guido911

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

1. He's a president for gawd's sake! Are there no perks acceptable for people who have climbed to the top?

2. My kids don't need the same security as the POTUS kids and I wouldn't want others to have their school experience ruined by having SS agents and papparazi injected into their lives.

3. This private school provides a superior education and they can afford it. Do you believe that all schools, public or private should be arbitrarily equalized to correct for wealth? If so, you sort of discard any incentive for excellence.

Honestly, I don't think they had much choice.



Waterboy with the predictable reach around. For gawd's sake, Obama's hypocrisy on this issue is mind-blowing.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.
 

azbadpuppy

^^^

....and that's not Obama's fault- it's been like that for decades.
 

we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

1. He's a president for gawd's sake! Are there no perks acceptable for people who have climbed to the top?

2. My kids don't need the same security as the POTUS kids and I wouldn't want others to have their school experience ruined by having SS agents and papparazi injected into their lives.

3. This private school provides a superior education and they can afford it. Do you believe that all schools, public or private should be arbitrarily equalized to correct for wealth? If so, you sort of discard any incentive for excellence.

Honestly, I don't think they had much choice.



Waterboy with the predictable reach around. For gawd's sake, Obama's hypocrisy on this issue is mind-blowing.



Er, why?  The man can afford private school.  Let him send his kids there.  

You can not support vouchers and still use private school for your children.  That's not contradictory.

guido911

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Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.



Where do you want 'em to go, Guido?  Georgetown?  

Maybe you want to explain vouchers to me a little bit better, because all they look like to me is way to sap an already underfunded public education system. Is that what we're going for here?  Or are we trying to break the teachers union?

guido911

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Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.



Where do you want 'em to go, Guido?  Georgetown?  

Maybe you want to explain vouchers to me a little bit better, because all they look like to me is way to sap an already underfunded public education system. Is that what we're going for here?  Or are we trying to break the teachers union?



First, what is more important to you-preserving our public education system or getting the best possible education for our children? Is it more important to you to protect teachers unions or to provide the best possible education for our children?

Vouchers would achieve at least two results:  1) Provide families a choice on where to have their child educated; 2)Impose pressure on public schools to improve or face a reduction in student population and thus funding.

As for Obama sending his kids to private school, not only is this a thumb in the eye to all those millions of dollars teachers union gave to his campaign, it is entirely consistent with his contradiction that he can have school choice but you, inner city kid, do not. Incidentally, D.C. does have a voucher program that Obama, who at one time supported, now no longer does thanks to teachers unions:  

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=28382

Finally, see my previous post to Waterboy about the predictable reach around. I am waiting to hear Hoss chime in to provide cover for Obama as well.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

azbadpuppy

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.



No, what Obama has been saying all along is that the public school system needs some serious fixing, of which he has committed to work on in his presidency (remember, he's not the president yet?) and that vouchers are not the answer.

You and I both know sending his daughters to a private school is the only option for his family at this point, plus with all the supposed death threats circulating about President-Elect Obama, it would be irresponsible of them to put their kids in public school. You are trying to argue a non-issue.
 

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.



Where do you want 'em to go, Guido?  Georgetown?  

Maybe you want to explain vouchers to me a little bit better, because all they look like to me is way to sap an already underfunded public education system. Is that what we're going for here?  Or are we trying to break the teachers union?



First, what is more important to you-preserving our public education system or getting the best possible education for our children? Is it more important to you to protect teachers unions or to provide the best possible education for our children?

Vouchers would achieve at least two results:  1) Provide families a choice on where to have their child educated; 2)Impose pressure on public schools to improve or face a reduction in student population and thus funding.

As for Obama sending his kids to private school, not only is this a thumb in the eye to all those millions of dollars teachers union gave to his campaign, it is entirely consistent with his contradiction that he can have school choice but you, inner city kid, do not. Incidentally, D.C. does have a voucher program that Obama, who at one time supported, now no longer does thanks to teachers unions:  

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=28382

Finally, see my previous post to Waterboy about the predictable reach around. I am waiting to hear Hoss chime in to provide cover for Obama as well.



Gweedork, you really crack me up.  [}:)]

As someone just stated, you're arguing a non-issue.  How many other presidents with children have sent theirs to private school.

The election is over and the guy you didn't want to win did.  Get over it.

guido911

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Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by guido911

quote:
Originally posted by azbadpuppy

Do you know anything about DC public schools? No one sends their kids to DC public schools that can afford an alternative.



That's my point. Obama is telling those families that have no choice but to use D.C. public schools-tough luck and no voucher for you! Hey, change you can believe in.



Where do you want 'em to go, Guido?  Georgetown?  

Maybe you want to explain vouchers to me a little bit better, because all they look like to me is way to sap an already underfunded public education system. Is that what we're going for here?  Or are we trying to break the teachers union?



First, what is more important to you-preserving our public education system or getting the best possible education for our children? Is it more important to you to protect teachers unions or to provide the best possible education for our children?

Vouchers would achieve at least two results:  1) Provide families a choice on where to have their child educated; 2)Impose pressure on public schools to improve or face a reduction in student population and thus funding.

As for Obama sending his kids to private school, not only is this a thumb in the eye to all those millions of dollars teachers union gave to his campaign, it is entirely consistent with his contradiction that he can have school choice but you, inner city kid, do not. Incidentally, D.C. does have a voucher program that Obama, who at one time supported, now no longer does thanks to teachers unions:  

http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=28382

Finally, see my previous post to Waterboy about the predictable reach around. I am waiting to hear Hoss chime in to provide cover for Obama as well.



Gweedork, you really crack me up.  [}:)]

As someone just stated, you're arguing a non-issue.  How many other presidents with children have sent theirs to private school.

The election is over and the guy you didn't want to win did.  Get over it.



Oh, because Obama won I cannot be critical of his decisions? Guess what, this is only the beginning. I am going to be all over this guy when he makes decisions I disagree with. I am going to bring the same amount of vitriol (non-hysterical) that those on the left have heaped on Bush for the past eight years.

As for presidents that sent their children to public school, I had to go WAY back in history to find one:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenna_Bush
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

RecycleMichael

Bogus guido...read your link.

Jenna Bush went to a private elementary school and middle school when she was the same age as the Obama girls.

When she did go to a public school, it was in Austin, not Washington D.C.

Power is nothing till you use it.

azbadpuppy

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Bogus guido...read your link.

Jenna Bush went to a private elementary school and middle school when she was the same age as the Obama girls.

When she did go to a public school, it was in Austin, not Washington D.C.





AND Bush wasn't president yet when she was in public schools.