SPEED TRAPS IN TULSa

[zstyles]

Let's post them here...yesterday I was shocked to find 4 police offers pulling people over in one area that is nothing but underpass. It seems to me they have found a "money pit" and are taking advantage of it. There is no safety reason for them to be there, there is no school around it, there are few houses but all working class so no one is ever home in the morning and they are always there when people are going to work in the mornings.

People coming north/east down the hill have to slow down from 35 to 25 and hold the brake or they will coast back down to 35 in short time, that's when the police bust them. I have a few times forgotten as I started down the hill but luckily remember as low and behold..there they were waiting!

At times they will have one spotter on a bike at the top, one-three at the bottom pulling them over. Had them lined up.

Here is a Google link to the site with street view. I also have a picture of the cops lined up but have to figure out how to upload it somewhere and post it. They kinda looked at me funny when I snapped the pic of them sitting there all in a row. I would be curious to see if anyone could find out how much money is drawn from this street.

Link to Map



View coming down hill

[zstyles]

Ya this has been going on for about 4 years now....I know people that work at DTAG and they know at least 10 people who have gotten tickets 1-2 times over the last 3-4 years...crazy

[kylieosu]

quote:Originally posted by zstyles

Ya this has been going on for about 4 years now....I know people that work at DTAG and they know at least 10 people who have gotten tickets 1-2 times over the last 3-4 years...crazy

Yep, I'm a DTAG employee and that speed trap is very well known to all of us.

[dbacks fan]

quote:Originally posted by kylieosu

quote:Originally posted by zstyles

Ya this has been going on for about 4 years now....I know people that work at DTAG and they know at least 10 people who have gotten tickets 1-2 times over the last 3-4 years...crazy

Yep, I'm a DTAG employee and that speed trap is very well known to all of us.

It took me a minute to figure out DTAG which brings me to a question about those three buildings. I know the eastern most was a bank and KMOD was in there until they discovered asbestos in the building. The question is about the two multi story buildings. One of them had a restaraunt in it back in the late 80's called the Finish Line. It was owned by the same person that owned The Starting Gate when it was next to Saied Music. He then went on and bought the old Charley and Barney's in the Williams Center Forum and turned it into the Red Pepper Chili Grill, which then moved to the building on the SEC of 4th and Cheyene. Sorry long winded, but is there still a restaraunt in one of thos two builngs where DTAG is? I think it was in the east tower on the first floor facing the BA Expressway.

[kylieosu]

quote:Originally posted by dbacks fan

quote:Originally posted by kylieosu

quote:Originally posted by zstyles

Ya this has been going on for about 4 years now....I know people that work at DTAG and they know at least 10 people who have gotten tickets 1-2 times over the last 3-4 years...crazy

Yep, I'm a DTAG employee and that speed trap is very well known to all of us.

It took me a minute to figure out DTAG which brings me to a question about those three buildings. I know the eastern most was a bank and KMOD was in there until they discovered asbestos in the building. The question is about the two multi story buildings. One of them had a restaraunt in it back in the late 80's called the Finish Line. It was owned by the same person that owned The Starting Gate when it was next to Saied Music. He then went on and bought the old Charley and Barney's in the Williams Center Forum and turned it into the Red Pepper Chili Grill, which then moved to the building on the SEC of 4th and Cheyene. Sorry long winded, but is there still a restaraunt in one of thos two builngs where DTAG is? I think it was in the east tower on the first floor facing the BA Expressway.

Yes, there is actually a Subway franchise currently occupying that space....wish it was still an actual local restaurant instead of a chain with a million other locations...but what can you do?

[dbacks fan]

Thanks kylie. BOT that area has been a speed trap since they opened Southroads Mall in the late 60's. It was a great shortcut from 31st and Sheridan to get to the malls without dealing with 41st and Yale or 41st and Sheridan. Also it was the same south of 41st in the area behind where Childrens Med was for the same reason, You could get to Southland without dealing with the major intersections.

[guido911]

Big time speed trap is on Yale between 71st & 81st. Cops shoot radar from an access road of cars traveling south from 81st street after coming up that hill. You vehicle is of course still accelerating at the crest of that hill, so it's a perfect spot to screw the "working people" going to work (Yes, I am excluding myself as a working person).

[Townsend]

244 between 75 and 44 tends to be popular.

I see them North of the 44 overpass quite a bit.  Not sure if I'd call it a trap but it's effective considering the number of people I've seen detained on the side of the road.

[TeeDub]

Sheridan and 65th is popular.

They like to get you as you crest Shadow Mountain and gain speed down the hill heading for 71st.

[guido911]

Also, getting off the Turner turnpike onto 35 South in OKC. Those troopers are always sitting under the overpasses waiting because of the speed reduction.

[YoungTulsan]

I just saw today that they've turned the I-44 & Riverside construction into a speed trap.  It is still 40mph going through, as there is no work being done on Riverside itself.  Going south on Riverside, where the left turn that would have taken you to west Tulsa before they closed it, a police car sat between the construction barrels tagging people while an unmarked car pulled them over.  They were taking advantage of having a neat place to park, somewhat obstructed, thanks to the construction.

[Wilbur]

Define 'speed trap'.

And since the police department has receive untold number of complaints about speeders in the area of 33rd and Irvington, and you obviously don't feel the police are needed there (even though plenty of speeding is going on there since plenty of tickets are being written), your response to these citizens who live on this street who call the police would be what?

Lets pick:

1.  Tough beans.
2.  Move.
3.  Got better things to do.
4.  Hope your kids don't get run over.

It's a residential street.  What kind of speed limit would you like?

I got a sure fired way of never getting a speeding ticket.  DON'T SPEED!  It's simple and saves lives.  What a concept!

And knowing what most officers give before they stop a speeder, I'll guarantee you most are at 40 or above.  And don't tell me you're getting tickets for 35.  The officer stopped you going faster but lowered the speed to 35 to keep the ticket off your driving record.  So, 40 through a residential is too slow.  You mean the speed limit on Riverside is too slow for that area.

[Rico]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

Define 'speed trap'.

And since the police department has receive untold number of complaints about speeders in the area of 33rd and Irvington, and you obviously don't feel the police are needed there (even though plenty of speeding is going on there since plenty of tickets are being written), your response to these citizens who live on this street who call the police would be what?

Lets pick:

1.  Tough beans.
2.  Move.
3.  Got better things to do.
4.  Hope your kids don't get run over.

It's a residential street.  What kind of speed limit would you like?

I got a sure fired way of never getting a speeding ticket.  DON'T SPEED!  It's simple and saves lives.  What a concept!

And knowing what most officers give before they stop a speeder, I'll guarantee you most are at 40 or above.  And don't tell me you're getting tickets for 35.  The officer stopped you going faster but lowered the speed to 35 to keep the ticket off your driving record.  So, 40 through a residential is too slow.  You mean the speed limit on Riverside is too slow for that area.

I agree Wilbur.

If in Tulsa they gave tickets for tailgating, and "Failure to Obey the Basic Speed Law" you would really hear them scream.

However, in California, these two items have saved an untold number of lives.[B)]

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

I got a sure fired way of never getting a speeding ticket.  DON'T SPEED!

Such a simplistic view would have traction if the, um, "enhanced enforcement efforts" werent strategically placed where the physics of the terrain precipitate transient spikes in the speed of otherwise law-abiding drivers.

Nailing someone disregarding the law on even ground is one thing, but metering people at the bottom of a hill is disingenuous and calculated.  

[nathanm]

It's pretty well proven that speeding tickets don't actually do any good. It does just as much good to post a single unit in a problem area to sit there and look pretty and make people's radar detectors go off.

Most folks slow down when they see an officer. The ones that fail to correct their speed should be ticketed.

Posting four officers in one location doesn't do much good.

The real solution is to narrow the roadway such that people don't want to speed.

Of course, here in Tulsa, we can't think outside the box like that, so we ticket and install speed bumps. They're both useless, but speed bumps are also dangerous and cause noise and pollution in the neighborhood.