Oilers complaint

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.

I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.

If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.

HOw is that being ripped off?  You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare.  OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.

But your choice, I guess.  Hockey isn't that popular in the south.  I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.

And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game.  Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30.  I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis.  You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.

I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.

It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.

No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.

The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.

I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.

I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.

$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.

Instead of whining about the ticket prices, just show them how you feel by not going to the games.  The pocketbook rules.  There are other things you can do and you named them.  There is not controversy here,  no one forces you go to to the games.  Simple solution, just don't go.

[TheTed]

I plan on not going to any more games until they start offering actual cheap tickets that aren't severely limited.

Am I not allowed to post about my complaints? If that's the case, we might as well shut this board down.

Visit an Oklahoma State message board. Half the posts are complaints about their ridiculous prices and policies.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.

I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.

If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.

HOw is that being ripped off?  You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare.  OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.

But your choice, I guess.  Hockey isn't that popular in the south.  I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.

And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game.  Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30.  I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis.  You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.

I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.

It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.

No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.

The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.

I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.

I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.

$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.

And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN.  They're AA hockey for pete's sake!  Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.

Sheesh.  Just don't go.  There are a lot that choose not to.  If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.

Call and make your voice heard.  *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.

Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know.  Guess what?  YOU DON'T.  I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way.  I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games.  So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.

[TheTed]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.

I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.

If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.

HOw is that being ripped off?  You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare.  OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.

But your choice, I guess.  Hockey isn't that popular in the south.  I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.

And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game.  Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30.  I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis.  You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.

I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.

It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.

No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.

The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.

I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.

I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.

$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.

And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN.  They're AA hockey for pete's sake!  Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.

Sheesh.  Just don't go.  There are a lot that choose not to.  If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.

Call and make your voice heard.  *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.

Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know.  Guess what?  YOU DON'T.  I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way.  I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games.  So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.

I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.

Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.

I respect your hockey fandom. I have no problem with your hockey fandom. If I were a hockey fan I'd have no beef with ticket prices.

But I'm not a hockey fan.

I'm just a guy who wants to be entertained without spending too much money. The vast majority of Tulsans are not hockey fans. You telling me you know a lot of hockey fans doesn't change that fact.

And the Drillers are far more relevant since they produce big league MVPs.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

I didn't think our prices were too bad.  My wife and I go fairly regular and sit in the $20 seat.  We've sat in more expensive seats, but they were actually too close to the ice and it was too hard to see the other end of the ice.

I've been to some NHL games and never spent less the $100 per ticket.  Was at a Washington Caps game in December in Wash DC and spent well over $100.  Hockey games aren't cheap, but they are fun.

I find Tulsa's prices fair for three hours of entertainment.

Baseball prices are cheaper because you get to sleep through a lot of the game before someone actually does something.

^^^^^
[}:)]

True.

I've said that baseball is 6 minutes of excitement wrapped around 150 minutes of utter boredom.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.

I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.

If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.

HOw is that being ripped off?  You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare.  OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.

But your choice, I guess.  Hockey isn't that popular in the south.  I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.

And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game.  Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30.  I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis.  You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.

I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.

It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.

No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.

The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.

I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.

I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.

$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.

And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN.  They're AA hockey for pete's sake!  Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.

Sheesh.  Just don't go.  There are a lot that choose not to.  If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.

Call and make your voice heard.  *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.

Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know.  Guess what?  YOU DON'T.  I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way.  I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games.  So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.

I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.

Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.

Believe it or not, I could care less whether it's big or not.  Tulsa has a better average attendance then over half of other minor league franchises.  Just because you don't agree with the pricing structure doesn't mean hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa.  You have a beef with the Oilers, as I say again, call them.

But somehow I doubt you will.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

The point is, I don't take kindly to being ripped off. This isn't the NHL and Tulsa isn't Moosejaw.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN. Nationally speaking they're irrelevant.

I could go to a scalper outside an NHL game in just about any sunbelt city and get tickets for less than $17 each. If Tulsa ever got an NHL team, I'm fairly confident I'd be able to get in the door for less than $17 a ticket.

If a CHL team is charging anywhere similar to NHL prices, especially in a city where hockey is irrelevant, they're nuts.

HOw is that being ripped off?  You should look at the other teams in the league and see how they compare.  OKC's team is right about the same price points, as are a lot of the others.

But your choice, I guess.  Hockey isn't that popular in the south.  I happen to like hockey and have held season tickets almost every season since 1998.

And evidently, you've never been to an NHL hockey game.  Where I sit now the seats in the CHL are $30.  I spent $115 on the same seats in the same general location for a seat in St. Louis.  You might want to look on NHL websites before taking a jab at our 'irrelevent' team, that has been around in some form or another for the better part of 80 years.

I did look at every other team in Tulsa's division, and our prices are in line with everybody else's. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it a decent value.

It is a ripoff in comparison to every other option, as I outlined in a previous post.

No disrespect to you, but hockey is irrelevant in Tulsa. You know that and everybody else knows that. There's nothing wrong with being a hockey fan, but you have to know there aren't too many of them in Tulsa.

The Tulsa Oilers are never gonna be on ESPN, except maybe a two second clip if there's some massive brawl or a once in a lifetime fluke play.

The ticket prices are fine if you're a hockey fan, but if the Oilers are marketing solely to hockey fans in Tulsa, they're missing 99.9% of their potential audience.

I, and the vast majority of Tulsans, don't care too much about hockey. All I want to do is have a good time without spending too much money. That's pretty much the definition of minor league sports. Nobody cares much if they win or lose.

I could get a ticket for less than $17 to an NHL game in Nashville, Dallas, Atlanta and probably lots of other places where people's interest level in hockey is similar to Tulsa's.

$17 for any minor league sporting event, especially a very low leve minor league, is ludicrous unless you're getting front row VIP treatment.

And no one ever said they were going to be on ESPN.  They're AA hockey for pete's sake!  Do you expect the Drillers to be on ESPN?.

Sheesh.  Just don't go.  There are a lot that choose not to.  If you have a gripe, the number for the organization can be found on line, by, you guessed it, Google.

Call and make your voice heard.  *****ing about it on a random Tulsa web forum won't get it heard outside of those people that frequent it.

Oh, and by the way, stay away from telling me what I know.  Guess what?  YOU DON'T.  I know several hockey fans at my work and have met most of my friends that way.  I can count at least 40 people I consider friends by way of hockey games.  So don't put words or thoughts into my mouth or head.

I said hockey's not big in Tulsa. I didn't think that was some crazy, controversial idea.

Next you'll get irate for me saying college football is big in Oklahoma.

I respect your hockey fandom. I have no problem with your hockey fandom. If I were a hockey fan I'd have no beef with ticket prices.

But I'm not a hockey fan.

I'm just a guy who wants to be entertained without spending too much money. The vast majority of Tulsans are not hockey fans. You telling me you know a lot of hockey fans doesn't change that fact.

And the Drillers are far more relevant since they produce big league MVPs.

Big league MVP's that I'll never see because I won't go to Denver to watch em.  Drillers lost my business when they switched from the Rangers to the Rockies.  Hardly a logical move.  But that's just my opinion.

BTW, I don't know a lot of baseball fans.  Well, at least Driller fans.

[TheTed]

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I can go on ebay right now and get tickets to several NHL games in various cities in the southern half of the US for $17 or less. That makes it ludicrous for the Oilers to charge that amount in an area not known for being a hockey hotbed.

And as an internet forum, this is where people come to voice their opinions.

My opinion is that certain sports organizations are charging way too much money. Oklahoma State University is one of them. The Oilers charge too much as well, but they're not anywhere near as bad as OSU.

[cannon_fodder]

You can usually ebay or scalp NHL tickets for $20-25.  $17 for the oilers is too much for casual fans IMHO.  I don't care what level they are at, they have many open seats so sell a few more "cheap" tickets.  At $17 it would cost my small family of 3 more than $50 to get in the door.  Another $25 on snacks etc.  A $75 night isn't a cheap night out for a small family.

Movies $24 to get in an $15 for popcorn and a large pop.  Not to compare the entertainment venues, but it is a choice people make.   To save 50% I'm sure many people choose movies or other.  Lower the price to $10 or even $8 and try to get more fans.

Fwiw, I'm a quasi hockey fan.  Grew up in Iowa.  My grade school had a hockey team.  My high school had a hockey team.  Watched my friends play, watched my home towns minor league games all the time.  It is a fun night IMHO.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I can go on ebay right now and get tickets to several NHL games in various cities in the southern half of the US for $17 or less. That makes it ludicrous for the Oilers to charge that amount in an area not known for being a hockey hotbed.

And as an internet forum, this is where people come to voice their opinions.

My opinion is that certain sports organizations are charging way too much money. Oklahoma State University is one of them. The Oilers charge too much as well, but they're not anywhere near as bad as OSU.

You're assuming I'm angry, which is ridiculous.  I said I could care less.  But whatever.

I'm still challenging you to call the front office if this has happened to you twice.  But like I said before, I doubt you will.

I'm just saying season ticket sales that are in the 2000 range tell me that there are at least 2000 hockey fans out there in the Tulsa area.  I wouldn't say that's actually irrelevant.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.

Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.

The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.

Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.

The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.

I take it you don't watch hockey much.  Either live or on TV.

[joiei]

I might be wrong here but isn't soccer the most popular sport in the world, not American style football?  And aren't soccer and possibly hockey more popular around the world than American style football?  When I watch the Olympics, there are a lot more games of soccer and hockey played for national reputation than American style football.  I would much rather watch a good soccer or college level hockey game any time, the action is fast and fun for me.  American football, almost as boring as a softball game.  Just my take on it.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.

Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.

The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.

I take it you don't watch hockey much.  Either live or on TV.

I did, years ago. I finally got fed up and decided it wasn't worth my time until the reservations that I just listed were addressed.

The NHL strike sure as hell didn't help things. That damned near killed the league, for no good reason at all. It was the most pointless and ill-advised work stoppage in pro sports history.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by TheTed

I'm not sure why you're getting so angry over it. Certain sports are big in certain areas of the world.

Hockey is not a sport that's big in the southern half of the US. That's a fact.

I'm surprised hockey is big anywhere at all, with its stupid-azz rules making the sport boring as hell.

Start getting rid of the offsides rule, then hockey (and soccer) will start getting somewhere with wider fan interest.

The offsides rule in hockey is akin to preventing the long pass in football. Would you want Sam Bradford constantly throwing dinky 5-yard passes? Hell no.

I take it you don't watch hockey much.  Either live or on TV.

I did, years ago. I finally got fed up and decided it wasn't worth my time until the reservations that I just listed were addressed.

The NHL strike sure as hell didn't help things. That damned near killed the league, for no good reason at all. It was the most pointless and ill-advised work stoppage in pro sports history.

You won't get an argument on that point here.  But baseball's strike took it's toll as well.  It took Sammy Sosa and Mark McGwire to get it rolling again.