Keep safe and warm folks

[HoneySuckle]

Just heard that even TU will be closed tomorrow, and they're always reluctant to close.

[Hawkins]

Tulsa is the ultra lame tonight.

D&B's kicked a bunch of customers out at 7:00pm tonight and shut down.

Barnes & Noble and Borders were both closed before 7:00 []

I drove to all of these locations 5mph over the speed limit, desperately searching for something to do, and had to marvel at fear and docility of the residents of this overgrown mid-western town.

As I type this, at 8pm, the sidewalks and some parking lots are iced over. No precip is currently falling. ALL major streest (both 4 and 2 lane in South Tulsa are wet, not slick).


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[HoneySuckle]

Seriously? When my hubby was coming home around 5:30 he said it was quite slick.  He was near to TU coming to almost 91st.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Seriously? When my hubby was coming home around 5:30 he said it was quite slick.  He was near to TU coming to almost 91st.

It was slick earlier. Surely the road crews have salted and sanded since then. Why they don't have an ice melt solution to spray on the roads before they get treacherous I will never figure out.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Hawkins

Tulsa is the ultra lame tonight.

D&B's kicked a bunch of customers out at 7:00pm tonight and shut down.

Barnes & Noble and Borders were both closed before 7:00 []

I drove to all of these locations 5mph over the speed limit, desperately searching for something to do, and had to marvel at fear and docility of the residents of this overgrown mid-western town.

As I type this, at 8pm, the sidewalks and some parking lots are iced over. No precip is currently falling. ALL major streest (both 4 and 2 lane in South Tulsa are wet, not slick).


[]

Good, I tell you what...

Get outside about two AM, then drive as fast as you possibly can down the following roads:

1.  Elwood Street between 61st and 71st.
2.  Riverside Drive.
3.  The I-44 curve on the BA.

Let me know from your hospital bed how that worked out for you.

[xx(]

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by HoneySuckle

Seriously? When my hubby was coming home around 5:30 he said it was quite slick.  He was near to TU coming to almost 91st.

It was slick earlier. Surely the road crews have salted and sanded since then. Why they don't have an ice melt solution to spray on the roads before they get treacherous I will never figure out.

They tried the magnesium once one season and they could never get it quite right.  The first time it created more accidents then the weather did.  I don't think they used it anymore after that.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss


3.  The I-44 curve on the BA.

Eh, barring there being any traffic, anyone who can countersteer properly should be able to drift around those curves at at least 50.

[cannon_fodder]

I'm from Iowa.  I learned to drive in the winter in Iowa.  It is generally no big deal.

Last night some roads were slick as I took my boy from 28th and Harvard out to 121st and Garnett (~5pm).  The surface streets were pretty bad - so long as you stayed ~5 under (under Hawkins, not over, under) the speed limit and planned on stopping in twice the distance you were just fine.

The freeways were mostly clear.  Some of the turns and most of the overpasses were slushy messes.  But again, so long as you knew that it wasn't a problem.  

Oddly enough, the freeways were lined with cars facing various directions.

This AM, the roads are much better.  The major streets have enough traffic to be clear.  The sides streets have enough sleet to be OK.  If I tried I could fishtail around corners easily, but otherwise no issues at all.

Per the de-icer:  it is just a matter of economy.  It is very expensive to spread material out (1ton covers 1 block if you go thick, 5 blocks if you go thin for sand/salt - or so I was told by a cousin who works for the IDOT) and the ice spray is no exception.  It makes little sense to spend that kind of money when it will merely melt away in a day or two.

Resist the urge to drive like there's nothing wrong and there will be nothing wrong.

[Hawkins]

I understand downtown/TU area did freeze up on the roads yesterday, but this morning, 81st & Memorial is frozen and white, last night at 11:00 it was only wet.

I drove 10 under this morning on it.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

I'm from Iowa.  

Well that explains everything. I just did not know what exactly was wrong with you.  []

[sauerkraut]

Tulsa streets can get bad in winter. They don't salt the roads much there. There is a big winter storm slamming the midwest with freezing rain and up to 8" of snow. Things are looking  grim. Wednesday the worst of the snow moves in. The plows and salt trucks are on 12 hour shifts around the clock in Ohio till this mess is over. Global warming indeed.[xx(][B)]

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Tulsa streets can get bad in winter. They don't salt the roads much there. There is a big winter storm slamming the midwest with freezing rain and up to 8" of snow. Things are looking  grim. Wednesday the worst of the snow moves in. The plows and salt trucks are on 12 hour shifts around the clock in Ohio till this mess is over. Global warming indeed.[xx(][B)]

Uh, dude, both ice storms we've had this year have had trucks out with SALT.  I know because I spent two separate car washes washing SALT off my car.

We salt more than you think.

You might want to have someone report in who actually lives here before you post about a city you don't live in anymore.

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[guido911]

I am going to bust out my skis...

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

I am going to bust out my skis...

Great idea!  I'm cross country skiing to the Colony tonight.  Try to stop me.

[Red Arrow]

Bixby usually applies a thermal treatment to melt ice and snow. (They wait for the sun.) I have to admit to being pleasantly surprised during the last storm to see a sand/salt on the street in front of our house. Tulsa maintenance on Memorial usually stops at 101st. If I can get to 101st & Memorial, I can get to work.