Daschle Out

[guido911]

Killifer Out, Geithner not paying taxes. This is freaking hilarious watching Mr. Hope and Change at work.

[guido911]

This is great:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdrp8vIoofA&eurl=http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x267726

[RecycleMichael]

The process worked.

These guys were not worthy of the new appointment and will pay for their mistakes. This happened to many of the former President's people as well.

What is you point?

Did we crow an and on about bad republican appointments and you want to get even...or are you just trying to pre-emptively throw mud because you can?

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

The process worked.

These guys were not worthy of the new appointment and will pay for their mistakes. This happened to many of the former President's people as well.

What is you point?

Did we crow an and on about bad republican appointments and you want to get even...or are you just trying to pre-emptively throw mud because you can?

Throw mud? If you or I did what those three I mentioned did we would get fined heavy or charged. Obama nominated three tax cheats to assist w/ running the government and another withdrew under a cloud of pay to play.

Obama ran on "change" and what we got is business as usual.

[RecycleMichael]

I believe these guys will be fined.

Look, if you are looking for someone to defend Tom Daschle on this forum, you might have to wait a while.

[cannon_fodder]

While I understand how they made many of the mistakes, it is not excusable.  When you make millions of dollars a year and have a free limo your taxes get complicated.  But you'd think they would hire SUPER CPA to scour their donkey for possible tax burdens.

The fact that there is a new Democrat with a tax problem every day (to exaggerate) is just feeding fodder to the Right Wing talking heads.   It will make bipartisanship MORE difficult and may well cost good people an appointment.  Not defending Daschle here or anyone else... but inability to pay your taxes doesn't necessarily mean you wouldn't be the best man for the job.

That said, screw Daschle.  He made TENS OF MILLIONS from the health care industry in a couple years and his wife is a registered lobbyist.  That would have been worse for Obama in the long run than this tax crap.  Change?  By having him look after the industry that has shuffled millions his way the last two years?

Argh!

But I bet a new line or two has been added to the famous Obama vetting teams questionnaire.

[Conan71]

Hey, if nothing else, this vetting process might up collections for the IRS!  So far they are up about $170K.

I still fail to see how the Senate confirmed Geithner.  So what if it wasn't as much money as Daschle owed, if anyone the treasury secretary should lead by example since the IRS reports to him.

I do think Nancy Killefer's tax problem for $950 or so over domestic help wasn't a big deal, unless she was employing illegals.  I still can't identify with paying domestic help to raise the kids and clean for me or to pay my bills, but I guess that's what you do if you have enough money.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder


The fact that there is a new Democrat with a tax problem every day (to exaggerate) is just feeding fodder to the Right Wing talking heads.   It will make bipartisanship MORE difficult and may well cost good people an appointment.  

You're right, of course, but then our (my?) friends on the Right have shown ample ability to find fodder anywhere . . . and if they can't find it, they'll make it up.  

Bipartisanship, sadly, may well be dead as a dodo for the foreseeable future, no matter what our shiny new president might want.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder


The fact that there is a new Democrat with a tax problem every day (to exaggerate) is just feeding fodder to the Right Wing talking heads.   It will make bipartisanship MORE difficult and may well cost good people an appointment.  

You're right, of course, but then our (my?) friends on the Right have shown ample ability to find fodder anywhere . . . and if they can't find it, they'll make it up.  

Bipartisanship, sadly, may well be dead as a dodo for the foreseeable future, no matter what our shiny new president might want.

Goodwill and bi-partisanship died with Watergate.  It double-died with Iran-Contra and triple-died with Whitewater/Lewinsky.  Keep adding... there's two more to go. []

Bipartisanship is just a campaign slogan anymore.

[pmcalk]

Daschle shouldn't have been nominated, not so much because of the tax issue, but because of the ties to the health care industry.

Having said that, the response from Obama is not the usual politics.  With Clinton/Lewinsky, the response was blame the "vast right-wing conspiracy."  Bush apparently never made a mistake.  Obama's response has been "I screwed up."  To me, that is refreshing.

[Rico]

^"Obama ran on "change" and what we got is business as usual."


Guido... Can we take this as an admission of the fact that George was giving us "Business as usual".?

Not George.... Not "Dubyah" Say it ain't so!

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

^"Obama ran on "change" and what we got is business as usual."


Guido... Can we take this as an admission of the fact that George was giving us "Business as usual".?

Not George.... Not "Dubyah" Say it ain't so!

Yep. I am no fan of GWB, although he was preferable to both Gore and Kerry which is why I voted for him. While I greatly appreciate how GWB kept us safe after 9/11 and was agressive in the WOT, there is no question he made mistakes.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


I still fail to see how the Senate confirmed Geithner.  So what if it wasn't as much money as Daschle owed, if anyone the treasury secretary should lead by example since the IRS reports to him.

My concern is that everything involving the treasury department and IRS is now gonna be followed with "Well what do you expect, it's run by a guy who can't even figure out turbotax."

[Conan71]

And yet, another Senator tapped for Commerce Sect'y.

I can't believe out of millions of educated Americans and thousands of decorated scholars  there's no one better qualified than a bunch of former Senators, lobbyists, and Clinton & Bush re-treads to head up the Executive Branch of gov't.

Sounds like short-change.

I've been saying well before the primaries all we would get with Obama was chump change.  With this group of DC insiders and life-long vets, does anyone believe me now?  He's starting to prove my original impulse which was that he was a rock star who'd never had an original idea in his life.  He picked one of the oldest legislative dinosaurs in DC as his VP.  We all know Biden's track record for swiping other's ideas.

But, I guess DC insiders might be better than the Chicago crooks who got Obama this far.

[Red Arrow]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Did we crow an and on about bad republican appointments...

Perhaps not you personally but in general, yes! Just before the election I remember several posters extolling the entire Democratic party and every candidate that ever ran under the party banner while posting links to lists of unimportant Republican bad guys to condemn every Republican that ever lived.

That was before ex-Gov Blago, of course.