Nuclear Power Plants

[Hoss]

"I don't think we have a nuclear problem just because of what happened in Japan," said Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.).

"Once in 300 years, a disaster occurs and they're all waiting for it and the Japanese are calm and collected, and only the politicians over here are hysterical,"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51301.html

That might be the only quote I'll ever agree with Inhofe on.

[patric]

That might be the only quote I'll ever agree with Inhofe on.

He seems to either have a problem with math, or memory.

[Hoss]

He seems to either have a problem with math, or memory.

But I get the gist of his argrument.  A lot of nuclear scientists and people in the business have gone on and said that most of the media is blowing this way out of proportion.  I even converse via email with a guy who is in the business but works in Europe and thinks the media here is terribly misinformed.

[Conan71]

The New York Times reports that GE marketed the Mark 1 boiling water reactors, used in TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi plant, as cheaper to build than other reactors because they used a comparatively smaller and less expensive containment structure.

Smaller and less expensive options are fine for a coffin because what it contains is separated by 6 feet of dirt from the rest of us.  Marketing a less safe alternative (if this is really true) in nuclear power is simply not acceptable.  I could see GE doing something like that, but Japan accepting something less than the US Gov't would is making my bullshit meter register a little especially considering the schooling we gave them on the dangers of radiation.

I'm interested to see where this thread off the main story goes upon investigation.  If it's true, I'm glad I'm no longer a part owner in GE.

[Conan71]

But I get the gist of his argrument.  A lot of nuclear scientists and people in the business have gone on and said that most of the media is blowing this way out of proportion.  I even converse via email with a guy who is in the business but works in Europe and thinks the media here is terribly misinformed.

Here, the worse the news is, the better the ad revenue.  I'm very suspect of a lot of the information we are getting.  It's like the guy on the WX channel saying the morning of the tsunami as it hit Hawaii: "If you want to know real coverage, turn off the news networks right now, it's hardly that bad".

[Hoss]

Here, the worse the news is, the better the ad revenue.  I'm very suspect of a lot of the information we are getting.  It's like the guy on the WX channel saying the morning of the tsunami as it hit Hawaii: "If you want to know real coverage, turn off the news networks right now, it's hardly that bad".

Yep, because I damn sure don't want meteorologists telling me about tsunamis.  They deal with the sky.  Leave the sea and geology to those people who have studied them.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Meteorologists do study the sea.  Not as much as a geologist, but enough to understand the whole weather cycle - starts with sea action - evaporation/condensation/precipitation.


I guess I'm wondering what would constitute "hardly that bad"?? 

Right now, we got 6 or 7 thousand dead from this thing, with 20,000 +/- still missing (probably a lot more).  The Moore tornado only killed a few dozen, but that was considered "that bad".

Just curious.  (Personal thought; this is pretty bad.  Not as bad as Indonesia, or WWII, or even the death toll every year on our roads due to drunk drivers,  but still not good.)

[Hoss]

Meteorologists do study the sea.  Not as much as a geologist, but enough to understand the whole weather cycle - starts with sea action - evaporation/condensation/precipitation.


I guess I'm wondering what would constitute "hardly that bad"?? 

Right now, we got 6 or 7 thousand dead from this thing, with 20,000 +/- still missing (probably a lot more).  The Moore tornado only killed a few dozen, but that was considered "that bad".

Just curious.  (Personal thought; this is pretty bad.  Not as bad as Indonesia, or WWII, or even the death toll every year on our roads due to drunk drivers,  but still not good.)

They don't study oceanography though.  They study hydrology as it relates to the oceans.  They don't study hydraulic dynamics of tsunamis.  Least last I checked it wasn't in the curriculum.

[heironymouspasparagus]

That's probably true to a first approximation.  I guess I wonder if one could get a good feel for the hydrology without at least a little bit of the hydraulics, too?  At the very least, I think I would be curious enough to take a cursory look at it.  But that's just me...

[Red Arrow]

Ah, the dream to live in a world without risks from natural events.  Hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, tsunamis, blizzards......

Let me know if you find that place on earth.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Or, huh???

I don't dream of that kind of world.  Quite the opposite.  I dream for the risks of all the above with the hope that when the time comes for me to step off this world, one of those is what does it rather than a slow lingering painful drawn out death.  Give me one of those quick ones rather than the above.

[Teatownclown]

I'm not believing anything I'm reading or that I am hearing. http://www.consciousbeingalliance.com/2011/03/japan-no-radiation-threat-western-press-evacuate/

[Red Arrow]

Or, huh???
I don't dream of that kind of world.  Quite the opposite.  I dream for the risks of all the above with the hope that when the time comes for me to step off this world, one of those is what does it rather than a slow lingering painful drawn out death.  Give me one of those quick ones rather than the above.

I know my hopes are that I get pinned in some rubble from a collapsed building then have slowly rising flood water almost drown me but not quite while I am in excruciating pain because my leg is broken but nobody finds me before I expire.  NOT!

[Conan71]

I guess I'm wondering what would constitute "hardly that bad"?? 

He was referring to the waves hitting Hawaii and aimed at the west coast.  The majors had everyone whipped into a frenzy and speculating on how much of the west coast would be flooded.

[Breadburner]

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