Dilly Deli - Blue Dome District

[jkantor]

 

[mrburns918]

I am looking forward to trying it. A good deli sandwich with the meat piled on like you would find in a NY deli would be a dream. Tulsa needs it.

Mr. Burns

[Red Arrow]

Is there any place around town that makes a real Philadelphia, PA style hoagie?  Not just a sub, footlong etc, but a hoagie?  I haven't had one for a  l-o-n-g time.

[Townsend]

Is there any place around town that makes a real Philadelphia, PA style hoagie?  Not just a sub, footlong etc, but a hoagie?  I haven't had one for a  l-o-n-g time.

A cheese steak?  I enjoy Phat Phillies in Gunboat.

If this is not what you are talking about I got nothin'.

[Red Arrow]

A cheese steak?  I enjoy Phat Phillies in Gunboat.

If this is not what you are talking about I got nothin'.

Nope, they're good too but not a hoagie.  Philly Steak sandwich is also really good but it's not a hoagie either.

I don't remember exactly what went in them but it included a couple of slices of Italian style hams, provolone cheese, sliced tomatos, oninons, lettuce, and I liked crushed red peppers on a hard Italian roll with olive oil, no mayo, no ketsup, no mustard, no ranch dressing.  There may have been some other "secret" ingredients I don't remember.  I saw somewhere recently on the internet that the "sandwich" was named after the workers that had them at the Hog Island shipyard during WWII, I think.

Edit: your "Cheese Steak" is probably the same as I remember a "Steak sandwich".  Our corner Deli didn't have warm sandwiches so we  had hoagies, with a slice of barrel pickle.  (Bought the whole pickle, took it home and sliced it.)

[Townsend]

I went a wiki'in and found some info but nothing that matches yours.  I'm from Jersey and had something close to what you're describing as a youngster.  I know of nothing like that here.

Not to sound like Steve but I tend to make my own.

I do miss some of the food I remember back East.  I think it's the bread and massive amount of salad oil running down my hands that I miss.


Edited to say I rememember the provolone was dryer than I know now...maybe stale, maybe a different type of provolone?  Is that something you remember?

[AngieB]

Nope, they're good too but not a hoagie.  Philly Steak sandwich is also really good but it's not a hoagie either.

I don't remember exactly what went in them but it included a couple of slices of Italian style hams, provolone cheese, sliced tomatos, oninons, lettuce, and I liked crushed red peppers on a hard Italian roll with olive oil, no mayo, no ketsup, no mustard, no ranch dressing.  There may have been some other "secret" ingredients I don't remember.  I saw somewhere recently on the internet that the "sandwich" was named after the workers that had them at the Hog Island shipyard during WWII, I think.

Edit: your "Cheese Steak" is probably the same as I remember a "Steak sandwich".  Our corner Deli didn't have warm sandwiches so we  had hoagies, with a slice of barrel pickle.  (Bought the whole pickle, took it home and sliced it.)

I think what you're describing in like the hoagie at Cedar's Deli at 26th-ish and Sheridan. One day while waiting on my order I told Sam that in all the time I'd been coming there, I'd never had one of their hoagie's. He promptly grabbed one and told me to take it home for later. It was very good.

And if you're in a hurry, it's great because they're pre-made and ready for you to grab and go.

[Red Arrow]

When I got home I did some memory enhancing research.  I found a few recipies and history that seem about right.   I remembered Hog Island from my trolley research but was off a few years... WWI, not WWII. I'm sure the recipies were not exactly the same but they were similar enough to have a signature taste anywhere in the Philly area.  How could I have forgotten the salami?  If I had realized how  regional the hoagie was/is when I lived there, I would have written more down.

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node=hoagie

http://www.recipezaar.com/Hoagie-69472

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/HoagieSubmarinePoBoy.htm

Tulsa Mini,  Thanks. I'll try to get to Cedar's Deli and try their version.

[Red Arrow]

Edited to say I rememember the provolone was dryer than I know now...maybe stale, maybe a different type of provolone?  Is that something you remember?

I remember it being dryer than most of the sharp chedar you can get now but not crumbly dry. Finding the right roll will probably be the most difficult part.