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Started by guido911, April 27, 2009, 05:47:26 PM

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cannon_fodder

Quote from: Trogdor on April 28, 2009, 03:51:54 PM
They did say that the airforce jet that took the pictures was a "training mission" to reduce the cost.

In all fairness, they say that any time an air force jet does anything.  Appear at an airshow.  Do a fly over.   Take President Bush to an aircraft carrier.  Blah blah blah.

I really don't hold this against Obama.  Unless he knew about it and said didn't care.  Otherwise it's stupid bureaucracy at work.

However, I do agree with the notion that if GW did this the people that are defending Obama would be pointing and saying how stupid Bush was.
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I crush grooves.

Red Arrow

Government math can be used to justify the training flight.

Zeros are worth nothing so:

$328000 becomes $328
$350  becomes $35

$328-$35 = $293.

Only $293 for training flights in two jet aircraft seems like a bargain to me.

;D
 

USRufnex

Somebody needs to be fired over this.

guido911

Quote from: cannon_fodder on April 28, 2009, 08:57:22 PM


I really don't hold this against Obama. 

Just shut it CF, it's all Obama's fault. He knew from the beginning. In fact, he drafted the FAA memo warning how circling at low level over New York would cause panic and, in fact, he was flying the plane at the time. Jeez, CF, you are such an Obama apologist.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: USRufnex on April 28, 2009, 09:22:07 PM
Somebody needs to be fired over this.

Damned right. USRUF, you're fired.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Gaspar

Ok, read the memo this morning.  I don't get it.

The FAA notified the mayor of New York, the secret service, and the FBI and told them that "this is likely to cause a panic" but told them to remain silent or face federal sanctions.

Yet the President was not notified that hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers were going to be thrown into a panic?

I just can't buy that.

I'm just curious if it had anything to do with the AP report written by Martin Crutsinger that the white house knew would be published that afternoon? 

The administration is projecting the federal deficit for the entire budget year ending Sept. 30, will total a record $1.75 trillion. A deficit at that level would nearly quadruple the previous record of $454.8 billion set last year. 

The joy ride story effectively silenced this story.  No one carried it, not even Drudge, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, and FOX all focused on the Joy Ride story, yet this deficit is certainly more dangerous than the Swine flu.  The Obama Deficit will be higher than the deficit of all previous US presidents COMBINED.  He did say he was going to cut it in half, but then he said a lot of things.

I was taught that when the magician flashes a shiny coin in one hand, it's what's happening in the other hand that's important.

My tin foil hat is tingling.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: Gaspar on April 29, 2009, 06:12:06 AM
Ok, read the memo this morning.  I don't get it.

The FAA notified the mayor of New York, the secret service, and the FBI and told them that "this is likely to cause a panic" but told them to remain silent or face federal sanctions.

Yet the President was not notified that hundreds of thousands of New Yorkers were going to be thrown into a panic?

I just can't buy that.

I'm just curious if it had anything to do with the AP report written by Martin Crutsinger that the white house knew would be published that afternoon? 

The administration is projecting the federal deficit for the entire budget year ending Sept. 30, will total a record $1.75 trillion. A deficit at that level would nearly quadruple the previous record of $454.8 billion set last year. 

The joy ride story effectively silenced this story.  No one carried it, not even Drudge, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, and FOX all focused on the Joy Ride story, yet this deficit is certainly more dangerous than the Swine flu.  The Obama Deficit will be higher than the deficit of all previous US presidents COMBINED.  He did say he was going to cut it in half, but then he said a lot of things.

I was taught that when the magician flashes a shiny coin in one hand, it's what's happening in the other hand that's important.

My tin foil hat is tingling.



1st Obama's Deficit includes all the TARP funds, Bush's $465 billion was without the TARP funds in it. 


And I point out that a certain group of people  post about the plane incident instead of things that are important. 

Conan71

Quote from: Trogdor on April 29, 2009, 08:03:44 AM
1st Obama's Deficit includes all the TARP funds, Bush's $465 billion was without the TARP funds in it. 


And I point out that a certain group of people  post about the plane incident instead of things that are important. 

How is terrorizing NYC not important?  Why were we blowing money on something as unimportant as a photo of a USAF 747 with NYC as a background?
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: Conan71 on April 29, 2009, 08:14:37 AM
How is terrorizing NYC not important?  Why were we blowing money on something as unimportant as a photo of a USAF 747 with NYC as a background?

"updating stock photos" I don't know why they need to be doing that or when the last time they did it was.  It doesn't exactly make much sense.  I would like a formal, stop paying for stupid crap decree from Obama.  It obviously isn't the time to drop 300k on taking pictures. 

Gaspar

Quote from: Trogdor on April 29, 2009, 08:28:42 AM
"updating stock photos" I don't know why they need to be doing that or when the last time they did it was.  It doesn't exactly make much sense.  I would like a formal, stop paying for stupid crap decree from Obama.  It obviously isn't the time to drop 300k on taking pictures. 

I agree 101%  America's credit cards are all charged up.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

custosnox

300K on new photo's of AF1 with a NYC skyline.  Could someone please send them a picture of NYC skyline, their old stock photo of AF1, and a copy of photoshop please?

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on April 28, 2009, 07:36:40 PM
Hear that Mayor Bloomberg, you notorious winger! Nate from Tulsa is telling you New Yorkers to stop complaining and overreacting. It's just terrah after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oQxH9J35T8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F04%2F28%2Ffaa-memo-feds-knew-scare-force-one-would-cause-panic%2F&feature=player_embedded
As I said earlier, there's no accounting for the stupidity of the general public. The things that people are afraid of shock me on a regular basis.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on April 30, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
As I said earlier, there's no accounting for the stupidity of the general public. The things that people are afraid of shock me on a regular basis.

Well it sure as sh$t didn't shock the FAA, which according to the above discussed memo expected panic. Not all of us can be as brave and courageous (and apparently less stupid) as you I guess.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on April 30, 2009, 11:52:07 AM
Well it sure as sh$t didn't shock the FAA, which according to the above discussed memo expected panic. Not all of us can be as brave and courageous (and apparently less stupid) as you I guess.
I ain't brave, I just made peace with my mortality. (alternately phrased, I just don't give a smile)

Stupid probably wasn't the right word. Ignorant would be closer to accurate. Ignorant and afraid.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

USRufnex

Quote from: nathanm on April 30, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
As I said earlier, there's no accounting for the stupidity of the general public. The things that people are afraid of shock me on a regular basis.

You're not talking about this specific case, are you... because if I had been walking the streets of Manhatten that day, darned right, I woulda thought something was up to see a low flying jet plane followed by a couple of fighter jets, eerily reminiscent of 9/11...

Why do this in secret, when making it public woulda served as a reminder that the skies have been safe over NYC.... more public relations bureacrats gone wild.

How much did Obama know and when did he know it?

Well, I guess you could investigate but would it really rise to the level of this...

Bin Laden determined to strike in US
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB116/index.htm

???

Perspective, people.