$38 million development being proposed across from BOK Center

[Red Arrow]

Just put up a sign.. Free Copper...  Someone will help take the lines out. 

[Gaspar]

Just put up a sign.. Free Copper...  Someone will help take the lines out. 

They don't need to be removed, they need to be moved.  An engineering challenge.  They could build a tunnel and encapsulate them, but that would mean no underground parking.  Wherever they go is going to limit what is built over them. 

Chances are they will stay right where they are and the alley will remain an alley somehow. I anticipate this property being cut up and repackaged.  Small hotel on one quarter, Restaurant on another corner with a few stories of office above, and the remaining 1/4th to 1/2 fee parking. I give that scenario an 80% chance.  Any residential component is problematic. 

[Townsend]

They don't need to be removed, they need to be moved.  An engineering challenge.  They could build a tunnel and encapsulate them, but that would mean no underground parking.  Wherever they go is going to limit what is built over them. 

Chances are they will stay right where they are and the alley will remain an alley somehow. I anticipate this property being cut up and repackaged.  Small hotel on one quarter, Restaurant on another corner with a few stories of office above, and the remaining 1/4th to 1/2 fee parking. I give that scenario an 80% chance.  Any residential component is problematic. 

How big is this bundle of wires?  It can't be piped through?  (Forgive the term, not my forte.  It's a visual I have of a pipe with a large bundle of wires going along the ceiling of underground parking)

[SXSW]

What firms did the sketched renderings?  It would be great to see one of the stronger design firms in Tulsa like Selser Schaefer or Beck get this project. 

[Gaspar]

What firms did the sketched renderings?  It would be great to see one of the stronger design firms in Tulsa like Selser Schaefer or Beck get this project. 

The origional design was done by Miles/Zabrowski.  I would anticipate it going out of town.  The hotel has its own architecture team and that will dictate the design.  There was several opportunities for this to be a Tulsa project, but that wasn't meant to be.

I'd like to see it fall into the lap of a good Tulsa firm like Selser too, but most likely it will boil down to the hotel and some parking.

[sgrizzle]

Does anyone know who the architect is for this project?

It's staying with Miles & Associates. Design work forthcoming.

Just saw these are some of the same people who did Castle Bumgarner.

[carltonplace]

Sweet! Downtown Tulsa is sorely lacking in faux tile roof buildings with faux yellow stucco. All of the Deco down there was making my stomach churn.

[SXSW]

It's staying with Miles & Associates. Design work forthcoming.

Just saw these are some of the same people who did Castle Bumgarner.

Miles has done a few nice contemporary designs like the OU Children's Hospital in OKC,


the Stephenson Research Center at OU-Norman


and the OSU forensics science and biomedical research facility in Tulsa (looks better in person, IMO)


I'd like to see something design-wise like this full-block project in Milwaukee:

[Red Arrow]

They don't need to be removed, they need to be moved.  An engineering challenge.  They could build a tunnel and encapsulate them, but that would mean no underground parking.  Wherever they go is going to limit what is built over them. 

Chances are they will stay right where they are and the alley will remain an alley somehow. I anticipate this property being cut up and repackaged.  Small hotel on one quarter, Restaurant on another corner with a few stories of office above, and the remaining 1/4th to 1/2 fee parking. I give that scenario an 80% chance.  Any residential component is problematic. 

One part of moving is removing....

Just kidding.  I know it's not an easy task.

[sgrizzle]

My guess is the parking garage is going to be under the east half, making the utility move unnecessary. Coupld of levels of parking for a half block is a good # of spots.

[tulsabug]

Miles has done a few nice contemporary designs like

the Stephenson Research Center at OU-Norman

Hmmm.... very... whatsthewordwhatstheword.... Reichish?

And sadly, probably the most architecturally pleasing aspect of any of these geometric atrocities.

[Townsend]

(Bump)

Was this killed?

[sgrizzle]

(Bump)

Was this killed?

No, it's active. Probably no major construction until closer to the end of the year.

[Townsend]

No, it's active. Probably no major construction until closer to the end of the year.

Thanks