Jesse Ventura's take on torture

[heironymouspasparagus]

The most successful interrogation of an Al-Qaeda operative by U.S. officials required no sleep deprivation, no slapping or "walling" and no waterboarding. All it took to soften up Abu Jandal, who had been closer to Osama bin Laden than any other terrorist ever captured, was a handful of sugar-free cookies.

Abu Jandal had been in a Yemeni prison for nearly a year when Ali Soufan of the FBI and Robert McFadden of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service arrived to interrogate him in the week after 9/11. Although there was already evidence that al-Qaeda was behind the attacks, American authorities needed conclusive proof, not least to satisfy skeptics like Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, whose support was essential for any action against the terrorist organization.

Abu Jandal's guards were so intimidated by him, they wore masks to hide their identities and begged visitors not to refer to them by name in his presence. He had no intention of cooperating with the Americans; at their first meetings, he refused even to look at them and ranted about the evils of the West. Far from confirming al-Qaeda's involvement in 9/11, he insisted the attacks had been orchestrated by Israel's Mossad. While Abu Jandal was venting his spleen, Soufan noticed that he didn't touch any of the cookies that had been served with tea: "He was a diabetic and couldn't eat anything with sugar in it." At their next meeting, the Americans brought him some sugar-free cookies, a gesture that took the edge off Abu Jandal's angry demeanor. "We had showed him respect, and we had done this nice thing for him," Soufan recalls. "So he started talking to us instead of giving us lectures."

It took more questioning, and some interrogators' sleight of hand, before the Yemeni gave up a wealth of information about al-Qaeda — including the identities of seven of the 9/11 bombers — but the cookies were the turning point. "After that, he could no longer think of us as evil Americans," Soufan says. "Now he was thinking of us as human beings."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1901491,00.html

Yeah, but even though the military has decades if not centuries of evidence to show that torture doesn't provide the desire results, notice how we still have the adherents who, being Disciples of "The Script" just can't tear themselves away from it long enough to realize or recognize even that one tiny little bit of reality?

[heironymouspasparagus]

And what a magnificent example of Navy Seal - cold cock one of his own, then run like a girl 'cause there are cops around!

What a man!!!!!

[guido911]

And what a magnificent example of Navy Seal - cold cock one of his own, then run like a girl 'cause there are cops around!

What a man!!!!!

You calling out THIS guy as a girl? How many times have you been shot or in an IED attack? Oh, and how many confirmed kills do you have in combat tough guy?

[Hoss]

You calling out THIS guy as a girl? How many times have you been shot or in an IED attack? Oh, and how many confirmed kills do you have in combat tough guy?

Oh boy, here we go...

[heironymouspasparagus]

You calling out THIS guy as a girl? How many times have you been shot or in an IED attack? Oh, and how many confirmed kills do you have in combat tough guy?

Sucker punch and run like a girl.  Says it all.

Granted, Jesse Ventura ain't much, but sucker punch!!??  And this kind of guy is what you look up to?  The bottom line is he is bragging on national TV to one of his 'kindred' spirits (Bill) that he committed assault and then fled the scene.  Wonder if that type of assault would be considered a felony?  Wonder if a lawyer could (would?) tell us?


Lot more to being a man than his macho stuff and that kind of high school crap....let me think - how about a WWJD right about now??

[guido911]

Sucker punch and run like a girl.  Says it all.

Granted, Jesse Ventura ain't much, but sucker punch!!??  And this kind of guy is what you look up to?  The bottom line is he is bragging on national TV to one of his 'kindred' spirits (Bill) that he committed assault and then fled the scene.  Wonder if that type of assault would be considered a felony?  Wonder if a lawyer could (would?) tell us?


Lot more to being a man than his macho stuff and that kind of high school crap....let me think - how about a WWJD right about now??

What do you mean "sucker punch". That doosh Ventura, at a wake of a MOH winner who threw himself on a grenade to save others, injects himself into the wake and makes a comment that more SEALs should have been lost. Jesse got what was coming. And if I had done the same thing, why hang around afterwards to get arrested?

[Breadburner]

I have to admit Ventura is a bigger doosh than Teblow.....

[Gaspar]

I have to admit Ventura is a bigger doosh than Teblow.....

I wonder if Ron Paul will choose him as his running mate?

[heironymouspasparagus]

I wonder if Ron Paul will choose him as his running mate?

He would go well with Newt and a nice Chianti...

As I said, he ain't much.  But then between him and the other guy...not much to either.