Possible Downtown Museum

[Boksooner]

At least it made it to a floor vote. I didn't think it would get that far.

[Conan71]

It looks like my faith was well-placed.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20120522_11_0_OKLAHO192488

Panels sign off on funding for Capitol repairs; Tulsa, Oklahoma City cultural centers

By WAYNE GREENE World Senior Writer
Published: 5/22/2012  10:29 AM


OKLAHOMA CITY -- Two legislative panels have signed off on a bond issue for the proposed popular culture museum for downtown Tulsa.

The committees OK'd a $20 million bond for the Tulsa project, $22.5 million less than supporters had asked for.

The panels also approved a $200 million bond issue for repairs to the state Capitol and surrounding buildings and a $40 million bond for the half-built Native American Cultural Center in Oklahoma City.

The three bills now go to the full House and Senate for consideration.

During the Senate committee's consideration of the Tulsa project, Senate President Pro Tem Brian Bingman said the rest of the $22.5 million to fund the OKPOP Museum will have to be raised privately. Earlier in the day, Oklahoma Historical Society Executive Director Bob Blackburn had said he hoped to come back to the Legislature for the rest of the money needed for the museum next year.

Rep. David Dank, R-Oklahoma City, said both the Tulsa and Oklahoma City projects were needed.

"We can't have the Native American Cultural Center sit there and rot or whatever," Dank said. "I'm equally enthused, if not more so, for the POP Center in Tulsa."

The Oklahoma City project has benefitted from three previous bond issues, totaling $63 million.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=11&articleid=20120522_11_0_OKLAHO192488

Well thanks a bucking pant-load for rewarding the proven ineptitude by those responsible for the Indian center in OKC while shorting Tulsa by $20 mil.  They should have granted the OKC cultural center $20 mil contingent on matching funding or absolutely ZERO and make them go begging.

GRRRRRR.

Sorry folks, someone needs a drink after having three Mondays so far this week.

[Red Arrow]

Sorry folks, someone needs a drink Marshall's after having three Mondays so far this week.

Three Mondays compressed into two days or was Saturday followed by a Monday too?

[Hoss]

Well thanks a bucking pant-load for rewarding the proven ineptitude by those responsible for the Indian center in OKC while shorting Tulsa by $20 mil.  They should have granted the OKC cultural center $20 mil contingent on matching funding or absolutely ZERO and make them go begging.

GRRRRRR.

Sorry folks, someone needs a drink after having three Mondays so far this week.

Hence my post earlier about my dislike (ok, hate) for ANYTHING OKC related.

That of course excludes the CMC... 

[Conan71]

Hence my post earlier about my dislike (ok, hate) for ANYTHING OKC related.

That of course excludes the CMC... 

I like what you did there

Red, today was a Twosday.  Two Mondays in one day.  First issue was a customer who went totally dumbshit on a warranty issue and another was finding out a piece of equipment will now be five weeks late via a totally preventable SNAFU on my end and the vendor's end.  Don't even ask how a start up down in cattle country went yesterday.   

[Hoss]

I like what you did there

Red, today was a Twosday.  Two Mondays in one day.  First issue was a customer who went totally dumbshit on a warranty issue and another was finding out a piece of equipment will now be five weeks late via a totally preventable SNAFU on my end and the vendor's end.  Don't even ask how a start up down in cattle country went yesterday.   

Everyday for me has been a Monday since about, oh, March 1st...but I deal with it as I come.  Short weeks for the last three and next two help a little.

It sucks having no control over what vendors do that affect the work you do.  My vendors are typically state DMVs.  All 50 of em.  They like to make changes to their systems without advance warning.  We usually find out about it when our customers call in and say, 'hey, what's the deal?'...

[DTowner]

This outcome is infuriating as it is probably the worst possible outcome of all.  Despite a track record of ineptitude and $60 million in past state money, OKC gets its full $40 million request and Tulsa gets less than 1/2 and told to go raise the rest privately.  Now Tulsa legislators are in a tough spot - vote against the OKC money knowing that will doom the Tulsa money, or vote for it knowing that we are getting screwed over (and who's to say Tulsa will get even 1/2 if OKC gets its money).  If this passes, we should use the $20 million to build a giant statue of a hand with its middle finger raised towards OKC.

[Jeff P]

This outcome is infuriating as it is probably the worst possible outcome of all.  Despite a track record of ineptitude and $60 million in past state money, OKC gets its full $40 million request and Tulsa gets less than 1/2 and told to go raise the rest privately.  Now Tulsa legislators are in a tough spot - vote against the OKC money knowing that will doom the Tulsa money, or vote for it knowing that we are getting screwed over (and who's to say Tulsa will get even 1/2 if OKC gets its money).  If this passes, we should use the $20 million to build a giant statue of a hand with its middle finger raised towards OKC.

I don't think they'll cut off our nose to spite our face.

I'll tell you what I like about this... at the end of the day, I think this gets done. There are too many smart and powerful people behind it... (GKFF) 

And what will be nice is that while those idiots down the turnpike are still fumbling around trying to get that money pit of a N.A. museum up and running, we'll be quietly be going about our business over here and creating another world-class museum.

And we'll do it in spite of getting screwed over by the legislature in favor of OKC for like the 10,000th time.

It will make it all that more satisfying when the OKPOP museum is a major hub in one of the absolute best A&E districts in the region.

[carltonplace]

I don't think they'll cut off our nose to spite our face.

I'll tell you what I like about this... at the end of the day, I think this gets done. There are too many smart and powerful people behind it... (GKFF) 

And what will be nice is that while those idiots down the turnpike are still fumbling around trying to get that money pit of a N.A. museum up and running, we'll be quietly be going about our business over here and creating another world-class museum.

And we'll do it in spite of getting screwed over by the legislature in favor of OKC for like the 10,000th time.

It will make it all that more satisfying when the OKPOP museum is a major hub in one of the absolute best A&E districts in the region.

LIKE +1

[DTowner]

I don't think they'll cut off our nose to spite our face.

I'll tell you what I like about this... at the end of the day, I think this gets done. There are too many smart and powerful people behind it... (GKFF)  

And what will be nice is that while those idiots down the turnpike are still fumbling around trying to get that money pit of a N.A. museum up and running, we'll be quietly be going about our business over here and creating another world-class museum.

And we'll do it in spite of getting screwed over by the legislature in favor of OKC for like the 10,000th time.

It will make it all that more satisfying when the OKPOP museum is a major hub in one of the absolute best A&E districts in the region.

At this point, it seems more likely that both will fail in the floor vote.  But if it passes, we should change the name to "TU POP" since we will pay
for most of it ourselves.

[Jeff P]

Well, OKPOP made it past the senate, while the OKC money pit didn't.

Perhaps there is some justice, after all....

[dsjeffries]

Senate Defeats Bond Issue for American Indian Cultural and Museum by One Vote

Shy one vote, the Senate killed the last hope that a $40 million bond issue would be passed this year to complete the American Indian Cultural Center and Museum.

Following more than an hour of debate, Senators whooped and hollered as the vote froze at 24-22. The measure required 25 votes for approval.
Just moments before, a $20 million bond issue was passed 25-21 for a popular culture museum in Tulsa. The Tulsa museum bond issue now heads to the House.

The House also voted yesterday to kill the bond issue for State Capitol repairs. They're considering OKPOP today. Let's hope we've got the votes to get it passed. Call your representative!

[carltonplace]

Senate Defeats Bond Issue for American Indian Cultural and Museum by One Vote
The House also voted yesterday to kill the bond issue for State Capitol repairs. They're considering OKPOP today. Let's hope we've got the votes to get it passed. Call your representative!

Jadine Nollan (R) has been notified and asked to approve!

[Hoss]

Jadine Nollan (R) has been notified and asked to approve!

I actually did the same with my house rep (Eric Proctor).

[dioscorides]

Jadine Nollan (R) has been notified and asked to approve!

This is the response that i received from her last week:
"I received your e-mail regarding the issuance of bonds to fund construction of the OK Pop Museum.   I appreciate you taking the time to contact me.  I do agree with you and believe it would make a great addition to Tulsa.

It should add value to our state by bringing tourists in from out of state, and ensure an appropriate archiving of an important piece of Oklahoma History.

Again, thank you for contacting me.  Feel free to do so on any subject of concern to you.  My door is always open.

Representative Jadine Nollan
District 66"

She didn't say that she would vote for it, but at least she agrees that it will be good for Tulsa.