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Started by Danny, June 11, 2009, 09:48:15 AM

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Danny

OK, its one day before the analog feed is dropped, I do not have cable, and do not want it, I use a converter box, I really only watch local channels anyway.
KTUL is the only network that I cannot get, all others are fine, Channels 8's signal is apparantly weak, does anyone know if this is going to be corrected.

I live in midtown tulsa, so I know im not too far from the tower, i pick up signal from Okmulgee that im sure is not as equipped as KTUL

jne

Try rescanning after Friday night.  I'll bet that it will be resolved.
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Danny

Quote from: jne on June 11, 2009, 09:59:45 AM
Try rescanning after Friday night.  I'll bet that it will be resolved.

thank you, I sure hope so

brianh

Same problem here, 90% of Tulsa is in our boat right now though.  I think part of the problem is the channel 8 engineers don't understand what they are doing, they have given several interviews where they claim there is no problem. I hate rabbit ears, the UHF stations are just fine. That said, I think most of the problem will go away tomorrow I hope. I might be able to finally dump cable TV when I can watch LOST on my antenna.

Danny

Quote from: brianh on June 11, 2009, 10:33:19 AM
Same problem here, 90% of Tulsa is in our boat right now though.  I think part of the problem is the channel 8 engineers don't understand what they are doing, they have given several interviews where they claim there is no problem. I hate rabbit ears, the UHF stations are just fine. That said, I think most of the problem will go away tomorrow I hope. I might be able to finally dump cable TV when I can watch LOST on my antenna.
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thats funny, because the only reason I am concerned is because of Lost.

mobboss

isnt Lost over for the year?  engineers i know said many stations STILL arent ready but have to turn off analog tomorrow, they count on cable and arent too worried about digital feeds as its such a small percentage

god created man, but he used the monkey to do it
 

TheTed

I've got the same problem. I get every other over the air channel with my indoor antenna except KTUL. My signal strength on 8.1 is like 30 percent.

I canceled cable a few months ago and I've been hoping the KTUL signal strengthens with the digital transition. I'd probably be able to watch the NBA Finals in glorious high-def right now if not for that stupid freaking delay in February, when the transition was supposed to happen. Instead, I can watch a snowy analog version of KTUL only if I hold my antenna above my head.
 

TheTed

Quote from: mobboss on June 11, 2009, 10:53:25 AM
isnt Lost over for the year?  engineers i know said many stations STILL arent ready but have to turn off analog tomorrow, they count on cable and arent too worried about digital feeds as its such a small percentage

god created man, but he used the monkey to do it
It wouldn't surprise me if KTUL wasn't ready. They seem to be the worst of the Tulsa stations, especially with their constant switching to SD every time there's a sprinkle in East Bumfuck, Arkansas.
 

nathanm

Quote from: brianh on June 11, 2009, 10:33:19 AM
Same problem here, 90% of Tulsa is in our boat right now though.  I think part of the problem is the channel 8 engineers don't understand what they are doing, they have given several interviews where they claim there is no problem. I hate rabbit ears, the UHF stations are just fine. That said, I think most of the problem will go away tomorrow I hope. I might be able to finally dump cable TV when I can watch LOST on my antenna.
IIRC, they're staying on VHF, so you need an antenna that has both good VHF and UHF reception.

This one I have (I have cable, so I only use it for things you can't get on cable) is excellent for its size on UHF, but is nearly useless for VHF. You aren't going to get better without going to a much larger antenna.

I have the Philips rebranded version of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Amplified-High-Definition-Antenna-Reception/dp/B0007MXZB2/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0

On the bright side, all you need is basic cable if you don't have anyplace to put a big VHF antenna as long as your TV has a QAM tuner. No need for digital packages or the cable box or anything else. It's $11.75/mo plus taxes and fees in Tulsa.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

TheTed

Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2009, 12:14:53 PM
IIRC, they're staying on VHF, so you need an antenna that has both good VHF and UHF reception.

This one I have (I have cable, so I only use it for things you can't get on cable) is excellent for its size on UHF, but is nearly useless for VHF. You aren't going to get better without going to a much larger antenna.

I have the Philips rebranded version of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Amplified-High-Definition-Antenna-Reception/dp/B0007MXZB2/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0

On the bright side, all you need is basic cable if you don't have anyplace to put a big VHF antenna as long as your TV has a QAM tuner. No need for digital packages or the cable box or anything else. It's $11.75/mo plus taxes and fees in Tulsa.
If you get Cox internet you get the locals in HD free and unscrambled.
 

brianh

Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2009, 12:14:53 PM
IIRC, they're staying on VHF, so you need an antenna that has both good VHF and UHF reception.

This one I have (I have cable, so I only use it for things you can't get on cable) is excellent for its size on UHF, but is nearly useless for VHF. You aren't going to get better without going to a much larger antenna.

I have the Philips rebranded version of this:

http://www.amazon.com/Terk-Amplified-High-Definition-Antenna-Reception/dp/B0007MXZB2/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_0

On the bright side, all you need is basic cable if you don't have anyplace to put a big VHF antenna as long as your TV has a QAM tuner. No need for digital packages or the cable box or anything else. It's $11.75/mo plus taxes and fees in Tulsa.

Yeah, I have the TERK DTVa, so for anyone reading this. As of June 11th, it only makes getting KTUL slightly less flaky, from the midtown area anyway.

nathanm

Quote from: brianh on June 11, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
Yeah, I have the TERK DTVa, so for anyone reading this. As of June 11th, it only makes getting KTUL slightly less flaky, from the midtown area anyway.
I do wonder why KTUL was stupid enough to stay on VHF. Very few stations elected to do so. It's more prone to interference and harder to get a good antenna for.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

brianh

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Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2009, 12:43:26 PM
I do wonder why KTUL was stupid enough to stay on VHF. Very few stations elected to do so. It's more prone to interference and harder to get a good antenna for.

That is an interesting question, I keep hearing from people that all digital channels are supposed to convert to VHF because it is supposedly better, but it seems like a step in the wrong direction to me judging by KTUL. But my only experience is with KTUL so far, maybe the power is so low on that antenna that it can't reach to Tulsa very well. In all fairness the antenna is further out from the city than KOTV and KJRH in or near Coweta.

http://www.fcc.gov/bureaus/mb/engineering/maps/index.html?zipCode=74104

Does anyone know the time of the switch, is it tonight at midnight? Maybe there will be really good news on it tomorrow.

nathanm

They have a construction permit from the FCC for increasing the power from 6900 watts to 15000 watts. That should help if you're currently able to detect a signal. I don't know when exactly they are planning to make the change. A call to the station engineer may provide more info.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

brianh

Quote from: nathanm on June 11, 2009, 01:07:43 PM
They have a construction permit from the FCC for increasing the power from 6900 watts to 15000 watts. That should help if you're currently able to detect a signal. I don't know when exactly they are planning to make the change. A call to the station engineer may provide more info.

Ah, that sounds good. I do get KTUL, it is just very choppy and unwatchable on most days. Occasionally, like two days out of the month it is crystal clear for a few yours. KTUL transition is at 9am by the way.