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What is going on east of Dilly Deli?

Started by OpenYourEyesTulsa, June 19, 2009, 09:15:26 AM

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OpenYourEyesTulsa

I was walking around near Dilly Deli last night and noticed that the row of buildings east of Dilly Deli and Temple are getting rebuilt.  They used to just be side walls with no front but now there is a metal skeleton going onto the front.  Any idea what they might be putting in these buildings?

Townsend

I have no idea but I'm happy to read that.

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AVERAGE JOE

No, it's not the architects' offices, SXSW. These are the three storefronts that Kitchell ripped up and left for years. The city finally forced the Kitchells to fix the blight to avoid steep penalties and/or having the buildings bulldozed with a lien slapped on the cleared lots.

OpenYourEyesTulsa

I am hoping someone puts some more restaurants in there.  That whole area is busy and I like having the option to walk next door if the wait is too long at one place.  The only problem is when all the places have a wait because there are not enough restaurants.

jtcrissup

I noticed this too on our bike ride to Blue Dome diner on Sunday morning...I have hoped someone would come in and expand the options in that district...I would really like to see the expansive "parking lot" between 1st and 2nd and Elgin/Greenwood be turned into a mixed use development (i.e. retail/restaurants/bars on first floor and apartments/condos/office space on floors 2-6) with a parking garage that would have a mix of FREE public/secure private residential parking options to really make this district shine.  Who owns THAT chunk of land and why aren't they developing it?!?  With the ballpark just on the other side of the tracks this is one prime piece of land...hopefully they develop wisely.

SXSW

Quote from: jtcrissup on June 25, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
I noticed this too on our bike ride to Blue Dome diner on Sunday morning...I have hoped someone would come in and expand the options in that district...I would really like to see the expansive "parking lot" between 1st and 2nd and Elgin/Greenwood be turned into a mixed use development (i.e. retail/restaurants/bars on first floor and apartments/condos/office space on floors 2-6) with a parking garage that would have a mix of FREE public/secure private residential parking options to really make this district shine.  Who owns THAT chunk of land and why aren't they developing it?!?  With the ballpark just on the other side of the tracks this is one prime piece of land...hopefully they develop wisely.

I agree, I would love to see a big mixed-use residential development on that site.  It definitely would help tie together the Blue Dome district and invigorate more life into the area.
 

jtcrissup

Yeah, if done right the possibilities are endless...small grocer (something like Petty's size with an eating area for the pre-made stuff); a nice liquor/wine store; several mid/small bars with live music playing; a few restaurants all on the ground level.  Level 2 could be offices with nice balconies overlooking the street, and Level 3 ~6 could be apartments (or condos if market is right) with a healthy mix of floorplans/price points to encourage a good mix of people.  A parking garage in the very CENTER of the block with public access off 1st (no gates in this area...make it free to the public except during special events...the more people that park there for work the better it is for the businesses as the constant foot traffic every day brings people in) and private/gated access off second @ Franklin would add/replenish the existing parking available and would provide those living/working there  with a guaranteed spot even during peak events like D-Fest.  The building could be "tiered" as you go up so it is not overshadowing the smaller buildings around it too much (and would give more options for outdoor living spaces).  Somehow tying in the "blue dome" theme arch/name wise would be cool too.

OpenYourEyesTulsa

I walked by this area the other day and it is coming along.  The new front looks pretty good and it looks structurally sound now.  There appears to be 3 spaces with the middle space being larger.  The 2 other spaces have "For Rent" signs.  Any ideas what may be going in the middle?

SXSW

Quote from: jtcrissup on June 25, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
I noticed this too on our bike ride to Blue Dome diner on Sunday morning...I have hoped someone would come in and expand the options in that district...I would really like to see the expansive "parking lot" between 1st and 2nd and Elgin/Greenwood be turned into a mixed use development (i.e. retail/restaurants/bars on first floor and apartments/condos/office space on floors 2-6) with a parking garage that would have a mix of FREE public/secure private residential parking options to really make this district shine.  Who owns THAT chunk of land and why aren't they developing it?!?  With the ballpark just on the other side of the tracks this is one prime piece of land...hopefully they develop wisely.

If Tulsa could land an Alamo Drafthouse movie theatre that block/parking lot would be a great place for it.  Have the main entrance/ticket booth open onto Elgin at 2nd St. with parking in a garage to the east.  Getting that block developed as well as the block between the PAC and Blue Dome (perfect for a park/plaza with an excellent skyline view) and the stretch of 1st between Detroit and Greenwood around McNellies (the north side) would go a LONG way in improving the urban connectivity of the Blue Dome district.
 

carltonplace

That huge parking lot needs to go away...I wonder what our good friends at American Parking think this parcel is worth?

swake

Quote from: carltonplace on September 23, 2009, 09:41:44 AM
That huge parking lot needs to go away...I wonder what our good friends at American Parking think this parcel is worth?

I think that's actually owned by TDA

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---Robert

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TheTed

Those parking lots would be worth less if morans would quit paying $5 to park there on weekend nights when there's always on-street parking a block away.