Iran Situation REALLY Heating Up

[Rico]

Aye... the Guido would like a Magic Carpet Ride...

That should just about do it...! No vote needed.

A la Bien Guido everyone!

[USRufnex]

Updated:  The U.S. House condemns the Iranian crackdown 405-1 (Yep, Ron Paul is the "1"). Obama, voting present.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D98TS0H00&show_article=1

What did THAT accomplish?

Ron Paul gets it.  Heck, even Pat Buchanan gets it... 

Pat Buchanan June 19, 2009
"If standing up and denouncing the Ayatollah and Ahmadinejad from 7,000 miles away is moral heroism, it is moral heroism at other people's expense."

They both understand that this resolution by the House is nothing more than cowardly psuedo-patriotism.....

Sat September 29, 2007
Iran's parliament votes to label CIA, U.S. Army 'terrorist' groups
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/09/29/iran.parliament/index.html

[guido911]

Since soccerboy completely ignored the substance of my last post, I thought it would be worth reinforcing my point about Obama's "I could give a sh!t" approach to Iran.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/21/they-killed-neda-but-not-her-voice/comment-page-1/#comments

Watch the video and click the pic of the girl dying in the street and compare that to "Ice Cream Night" for Obama and his kids.

[Red Arrow]

Do you believe me now.... or shall I go on?

You obviously have seen a different light since then.  It's difficult to believe that the 80s were already 20 yrs ago.

[USRufnex]

Since soccerboy completely ignored the substance of my last post, I thought it would be worth reinforcing my point about Obama's "I could give a sh!t" approach to Iran.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/21/they-killed-neda-but-not-her-voice/comment-page-1/#comments

Watch the video and click the pic of the girl dying in the street and compare that to "Ice Cream Night" for Obama and his kids.

Michelle Malkin?   
Yeah, like that's gonna change my mind....

Here's Michael Moore...



'Fahrenheit 9/11' - My Pet Goat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO3F6mZUaE

Where was your righteous indignation then, freeper boy?
Or does it not count when OUR country is under attack?

Hypocrite.

[guido911]

Michelle Malkin?   
Yeah, like that's gonna change my mind....

Here's Michael Moore...

'Fahrenheit 9/11' - My Pet Goat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rO3F6mZUaE

Where was your righteous indignation then, freeper boy?
Or does it not count when OUR COUNTRY is under attack?

Hypocrite.

Still ignoring my previous post about your BS neocon crap. You are as big as a coward as Obambi.

Oh, and you criticize my sources and in the same breath source Michael Moore?   

[we vs us]

Since soccerboy completely ignored the substance of my last post, I thought it would be worth reinforcing my point about Obama's "I could give a sh!t" approach to Iran.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/06/21/they-killed-neda-but-not-her-voice/comment-page-1/#comments

Watch the video and click the pic of the girl dying in the street and compare that to "Ice Cream Night" for Obama and his kids.

Maybe you'd like to elaborate a little on what you'd like our president to do with a country with whom we have no diplomatic relations and who, until very recently, was part of the vaunted Axis of Evil.  Aside from issuing a statement like:

The Iranian government must understand that the world is watching. We mourn each and every innocent life that is lost. We call on the Iranian government to stop all violent and unjust actions against its own people. The universal rights to assembly and free speech must be respected, and the United States stands with all who seek to exercise those rights.

As I said in Cairo, suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away. The Iranian people will ultimately judge the actions of their own government. If the Iranian government seeks the respect of the international community, it must respect the dignity of its own people and govern through consent, not coercion.

Martin Luther King once said - "The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice." I believe that. The international community believes that. And right now, we are bearing witness to the Iranian peoples' belief in that truth, and we will continue to bear witness.

[USRufnex]

Still ignoring my previous post about your BS neocon crap. You are as big as a coward as Obambi.

Oh, and you criticize my sources and in the same breath source Michael Moore?

Like for like.



You call me a coward?

Note to Conservatives: Iran Is Not Eastern Europe -- It's Iran
Washington Monthly, June 17, 2009.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/world/140734/note_to_conservatives:_iran_is_not_eastern_europe_--_it%27s_iran/

So, you think Pat Buchanan is a coward?...... and George Will?.... and Peggy Noonan?....
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/21/will-iran-foolish-criticism/

GEORGE WILL: The president is being roundly criticized for insufficient, rhetorical support for what's going on over there. It seems to me foolish criticism. The people on the streets know full well what the American attitude toward the regime is. And they don't need that reinforced.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124535660563828707.html

PEGGY NOONAN: America so often gets Iran wrong. We didn't know when the shah was going to fall, didn't foresee the massive wave that would topple him, didn't know the 1979 revolution would move violently against American citizens, didn't know how to handle the hostage-taking. Last week we didn't know a mass rebellion was coming, and this week we don't know who will emerge the full or partial victor. So modesty and humility seem appropriate stances from which to observe and comment.
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To insist the American president, in the first days of the rebellion, insert the American government into the drama was shortsighted and mischievous. The ayatollahs were only too eager to demonize the demonstrators as mindless lackeys of the Great Satan Cowboy Uncle Sam, or whatever they call us this week. John McCain and others went quite crazy insisting President Obama declare whose side America was on, as if the world doesn't know whose side America is on.

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Go back to your little red-state tricycle, you blubbering neocon apologist moron.

[guido911]

Maybe you'd like to elaborate a little on what you'd like our president to do with a country with whom we have no diplomatic relations and who, until very recently, was part of the vaunted Axis of Evil.

Why, take his kids out for ice cream, of course. That pantywaste of a statement, wherein he once again made HIMSELF the issue in referring to his Cairo speech, only came as a result of increasing pressure. Before yesterday, he was quiet because he didn't want to meddle in Iran's affairs--notwithstanding his willingness to meddle in Israel's affairs.  As for what I suggest, how about throwing some support in favor of the protesters, how about a "gravely concerned" letter, how about not acknowledging the election results as legitimate? Better yet, think about this. Who once said that the Iranian regime "is a threat to all of us"?  Yep, Obama in 2007. I guess Iran is no longer a threat, in Obama's mind.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/281249,CST-NWS-OBAMA03.article


As for you soccerboy, you are officially boring. You refuse to engage in meaningful debate and instead resort to FOTD-style article posting. And your three JOURNALISTS opinions that Obama's course is right, I raise you VP Biden and SoS Clinton:

http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2009/06/20/james-taranto-in-wsj-obamas-timidity-on-iran-leaves-him-increasingly-isolated/

[FOTD]

Why, take his kids out for ice cream, of course. That pantywaste of a statement, wherein he once again made HIMSELF the issue in referring to his Cairo speech, only came as a result of increasing pressure. Before yesterday, he was quiet because he didn't want to meddle in Iran's affairs--notwithstanding his willingness to meddle in Israel's affairs.  As for what I suggest, how about throwing some support in favor of the protesters, how about a "gravely concerned" letter, how about not acknowledging the election results as legitimate? Better yet, think about this. Who once said that the Iranian regime "is a threat to all of us"?  Yep, Obama in 2007. I guess Iran is no longer a threat, in Obama's mind.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/281249,CST-NWS-OBAMA03.article


As for you soccerboy, you are officially boring. You refuse to engage in meaningful debate and instead resort to FOTD-style article posting. And your three JOURNALISTS opinions that Obama's course is right, I raise you VP Biden and SoS Clinton:

http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2009/06/20/james-taranto-in-wsj-obamas-timidity-on-iran-leaves-him-increasingly-isolated/

Doe Doe,

Numerous educated posters place article links in their comments merely to convey a sense of journalism integrity to back us up. You do that too,sometimes. The difference is that your posts are antagonistic, hateful and mean which provides this forum with contrast.

Keep it up. While FOTD is TNF's devil advocate, you are our master baiter.

Keep it up!

Peas,

Friend Of The Devil

[guido911]

Protesters chase police. Freakin hilarious:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/2009/06/090621_ag_street_clashes.shtml

[USRufnex]

Guido, you are officially predictable.... Friendly Bear minus the anti-Semitism.

Oh, I forgot... pantywaist right wing neocon apologist koolaid drinkers like yourself don't like journalists..... unless they work for Fox... 

Richard Lugar: US Should Sit Down With Iranian Government Regardless Of Post-Election Turmoil (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/21/richard-lugar-us-should-s_n_218538.html

Netanyahu: I Won't Second-Guess Obama On Iran
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/21/netanyahu-i-wont-second-g_n_218544.html

[USRufnex]

Why, take his kids out for ice cream, of course. That pantywaste of a statement, wherein he once again made HIMSELF the issue in referring to his Cairo speech, ....................................

As for you soccerboy, you are officially boring. You refuse to engage in meaningful debate and instead resort to FOTD-style article posting. And your three JOURNALISTS opinions that Obama's course is right, I raise you VP Biden and SoS Clinton:

http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2009/06/20/james-taranto-in-wsj-obamas-timidity-on-iran-leaves-him-increasingly-isolated/

Gee Guido....... how often do you beat your wife?   

Hmmm.  You're quoting James Taranto, who is just making stuff up.... you think Taranto has an agenda?.......

WHO DID JAMES TARANTO AND THE NEOCONS SUPPORT IN THE IRANIAN ELECTION?

THEY SUPPORTED THE ENEMY!!!  THEY SUPPORTED THE DICTATOR!!!  THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COMPARED AHMADINEJAD TO HITLER SUPPORT HIM!!!  THE SAME NEOCON HYPOCRITS WHO WANT OUR MILITARY TO INVADE IRAN!!!

Neocons Rooting For Ahmadinejad To Win
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2UzEZ3oTMQ

US/Israeli Neocons Celebrate Ahmadinejad Victory as Iran Burns
June 14, 2009
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/eades/2009/06/usisraeli-neocons-celebrate-ah.php?ref=reccafe

[guido911]

Gee Guido....... how often do you beat your wife?   

Hmmm.  You're quoting James Taranto, who is just making stuff up.... you think Taranto has an agenda?.......

WHO DID JAMES TARANTO AND THE NEOCONS SUPPORT IN THE IRANIAN ELECTION?

THEY SUPPORTED THE ENEMY!!!  THEY SUPPORTED THE DICTATOR!!!  THE SAME PEOPLE WHO COMPARED AHMADINEJAD TO HITLER SUPPORT HIM!!!  THE SAME NEOCON HYPOCRITS WHO WANT OUR MILITARY TO INVADE IRAN!!!

Neocons Rooting For Ahmadinejad To Win
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2UzEZ3oTMQ

US/Israeli Neocons Celebrate Ahmadinejad Victory as Iran Burns
June 14, 2009
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/eades/2009/06/usisraeli-neocons-celebrate-ah.php?ref=reccafe

You call me predictable?  How many times have you busted out that stupid "beat your wife" quip? Here's a question, how often do you beat off Oba...oh, nevermind. 

As for the article, who cares where it came from because the part I was relying upon to prove my point was also in that notoriously right-wing news source, The New York Times:

Even while supporting the president's approach, senior members of the administration, including Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, would like to strike a stronger tone in support of the protesters, administration officials said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/18/us/politics/18prexy.html?_r=1

So we have the VP, who was picked because of his (alleged) foreign policy chops and the sec of state wanting a stronger response by Obama. There's also those 405 Congress members that voted to condemn Iran's response. You have Sen. Lugar, Ron Paul, Bibi, and three journos. Got it.

Ask yourself a question, why are many of those signs carried by the protesters in English? 

[Cats Cats Cats]

As for you soccerboy, you are officially boring. You refuse to engage in meaningful debate and instead resort to FOTD-style article posting. And your three JOURNALISTS opinions that Obama's course is right, I raise you VP Biden and SoS Clinton:

http://www.kansasprogress.com/wordpress/index.php/2009/06/20/james-taranto-in-wsj-obamas-timidity-on-iran-leaves-him-increasingly-isolated/

LOL, "You act like FOTD and just post articles and don't add to the debate, here is an article"

Classic