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Wednesday and Thursday are Ozone Alert Days

Started by RecycleMichael, June 23, 2009, 04:27:41 PM

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RecycleMichael

Buy gas and mow your yard tonight!

http://www.ozonealert.com/index.htm

The north monitor is showing very high readings from a slight southernly breeze that is going to stop tomorrow. We could be in trouble.

Make Wind!
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Quote from: RecycleMichael on June 23, 2009, 04:27:41 PM
Buy gas and mow your yard tonight!

http://www.ozonealert.com/index.htm

The north monitor is showing very high readings from a slight southernly breeze that is going to stop tomorrow. We could be in trouble.

Make Wind!

Already planned on mowing tonight, but glad you mentioned this so I would go through with it.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Wrinkle

This issue has such an easy solution, I'm not sure why the masses are troubled with it every summer.

If the trash plant, Sunoco and/or Sinclair would turn down the dial 25% on OAD's, problem solved.

I'm sure there's a number of other businesses dumping into the air here that could contribute to the solution, perhaps where all might need only notch it down 5-10%, or less, on those days.



Noodlez

Or add some sort of service charge to gas on those days. And small fine if caught mowing,

Ed W

I'll be on the bicycle tomorrow, Michael, but I'm sorry about one thing.  Due to the recent go-round with, um, 'intestinal distress', I can't help but make wind.

(chortle)
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Red Arrow

We need a wind power generation farm near the ozone detectors.  On Ozone alert days, pull some power from the grid and turn the generators into fans to disperse the ozone.   ;D
 

OurTulsa

I had the same idea: raising the cost of gas on OADs.  Have the City charge $.10/gallon (or $.50) and invest the revenue into clean air measures including bike/pedestrian infrastructure and transit.

I'm cool with that.

SXSW

Quote from: OurTulsa on June 23, 2009, 11:01:51 PM
I had the same idea: raising the cost of gas on OADs.  Have the City charge $.10/gallon (or $.50) and invest the revenue into clean air measures including bike/pedestrian infrastructure and transit.

I'm cool with that.

It would cause an uproar but I'd be down with it too.  If an OAD is announced the night before, go and fill up either that night or early morning before the price goes up at, say 7 am.  Continue the increased price of gas all day until the evening and if another OAD is issued do it all over again with a 'window' of normal prices from dusk until dawn.  Make it county-wide and have county revenues go to the aforementioned bike/ped. infrastructure and mass transit.  Tulsa could generate some positive press and it would decrease fill-ups on OAD's.

And I agree, we need to pressure the industries to do more especially on OAD's.  They are a huge contributor.

 

Red Arrow

Changing the price for certain hours as described above might be an accounting difficulty.  Anyone here have a convenience store?  Would the cash register software handle something like that?  Maybe some of the increase would need to go to the merchant to cover increased accounting costs.
 

Conan71

Quote from: Red Arrow on June 24, 2009, 08:59:03 AM
Changing the price for certain hours as described above might be an accounting difficulty.  Anyone here have a convenience store?  Would the cash register software handle something like that?  Maybe some of the increase would need to go to the merchant to cover increased accounting costs.

I believe that's what is commonly referred to as a massive cluster f@ck
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

cannon_fodder

Woot!  I did, I did.  We mowed our lawn and bought gas.  Will notch the AC up a couple degrees tomorrow and driving trips after work. 

Michael:

Have you ever talked to the Tulsa Airport about pushing/pulling planes to the runway or at least having them taxi with one engine during OZONE ALERT days?  That would probably help a lot more than Joe Blow not mowing.
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RecycleMichael

I have not had that direct conversation with the airport. I will try and work it in. The airline industry is responsible for about 11 percent of greenhouse gases emitted by the U.S. transportation sector.

Jet fuel actually has many other problems than contributing to ozone. It is a mixture of a wide variety of hydrocarbons, but includes some intersting additives including antistatic agents. Jet fuel is also allowed to add lead to the fuel, something prohibited with other transportation fuels.

Mobil sources are half the problem. It is almost impossible to "turn down the dial" on a large industrial process as was mentioned earlier in the thread. Many of the emitters would probably emit more if you tried to change the process on a few days of the year. A complete and efficient fire is by far the cleaner burn.

Trying to blame industry for the issue is a copout. They are heavily regulated and have few options. We, on the other hand can change our behavior on the few days a year that would make a difference.
Power is nothing till you use it.

RecycleMichael

Tomorrow is now an ozone alert day as well.

The west Tulsa county monitor has a one-hour reading of over 100 parts per billion.
http://www.ozonealert.com/index.htm

I wouldn't let the kids play outside or go for a run if I lived in Mannford today.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

Something else which might help is useless idling on OA days.  The BA was close to a parking lot where they throttled it down to one lane during lunch hour for work.  Another problem area for idling is the stop light system on Yale from about 81st to 31st.  You hit one stop light and you wind up in stop light hell for five miles.  I've had that happen many times.  It's especially bad on a motorcycle on a day like today.  They need to re-engineer the timing on Yale.  It sucks.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

YoungTulsan

Quote from: Conan71 on June 24, 2009, 01:43:41 PM
Something else which might help is useless idling on OA days.  The BA was close to a parking lot where they throttled it down to one lane during lunch hour for work.  Another problem area for idling is the stop light system on Yale from about 81st to 31st.  You hit one stop light and you wind up in stop light hell for five miles.  I've had that happen many times.  It's especially bad on a motorcycle on a day like today.  They need to re-engineer the timing on Yale.  It sucks.

The secret is to just run one red light, then you get nothing but greens from then on ;)