WNBA for Tulsa?

[swake]

A swake classic for all times!

Thanks for the laugh!

Thanks,

But, Laramie really has me worried. I remembered that I took my son's Cub Scout den to a TU Women's basketball game a year or so ago as part of their advancement requirements. Should I be concerned that these young boys were harmed in some way? Is my son now going to be gay? He already doesn't want to play football, he's happy with just Soccer, is going to a women's basketball game going to push him over the edge? What's next, show tunes and scarves?

What am I going to do?

[Conan71]

Yeah, got to be careful about your kids catching the gay, I hear it's contageous.

[TURobY]

Yeah, got to be careful about your kids catching the gay, I hear it's contageous.

I share it whenever I can. 

[USRufnex]

Thanks,

But, Laramie really has me worried. I remembered that I took my son's Cub Scout den to a TU Women's basketball game a year or so ago as part of their advancement requirements. Should I be concerned that these young boys were harmed in some way? Is my son now going to be gay? He already doesn't want to play football, he's happy with just Soccer, is going to a women's basketball game going to push him over the edge? What's next, show tunes and scarves?

What am I going to do?

I've been using a repellent, and would make a recommendation... but unfortunately the manufacturer changed its formula and added a scent of lavender.

I used to be able to wear a doubleknit polyester shirt to keep the gays away, but they seem to build up a tolerance over time.  Now, when I wear polyester, it does nothing but attract them.  They just keep using this word, "kich" (sp?), and then invite me over "for a beer." 

I wish the government would do something, but I think if gays are outlawed, only outlaws will have gays.

If someone can suggest another gay repellent for me to use, please advise.
I like Bert's Bees.

Thanks in advance.

RUFF.

[Conan71]

I hear ya' Swake....

I've been using a repellent, and would make a recommendation... but unfortunately the manufacturer changed its formula and added a scent of lavender.

I used to be able to wear a doubleknit polyester shirt to keep the gays away, but they seem to build up a tolerance over time.  Now, when I wear polyester, it does nothing but attract them.  They just keep using this word, "kich" (sp?), and then invite me over "for a beer." 

I know better.

I wish the government would do something, but I think if gays are outlawed, only outlaws will have gays.

If someone can suggest another gay repellent for me to use, please advise.
I like Bert's Bees.

Thanks in advance.

RUFF.

Broadway show tunes and opera seem to attract them too, so karaoke might be out.

[Laramie]

The WNBA in Tulsa is getting a lot of press coverage here in Oklahoma City.

A successful Tulsa franchise just might cause the Oklahoma City Thunder ownership to reconsider a WNBA franchise; they left the Seattle Storm in the Emerald City.

A WNBA franchise could play in the Cox Convention Center across from the Ford Center, the current seating capacity is 14,005 for basketball.

There is a lot of interest in the WNBA here in Oklahoma City; also there are a number of current NBA cities waiting to join.

[USRufnex]

Really, Laramie?  Why would the WNBA ever consider having teams in both Tulsa and OKC?  Is there any reason to believe that Clay Bennett/Aubrey McClendon are having seller's remorse after they gave up OKC's WNBA rights to a group in Seattle for a cool $10mil?

And who are these other cities vying with Tulsa for an expansion slot?  
Can anybody name some other cities that have thrown their hat into the ring?
Cuz Donna Orender won't name any (or can't name any-- not sure which).

Tulsa gets closer to gaining WNBA team
Investors report that the group has reached 75 percent of its goal.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/article.aspx?subjectid=235&articleid=20090827_226_B1_Blaeos919246

It looks to me as if Tulsa is the WNBA's closest (only?) viable option for 2010.
Otherwise, why would Orender give Tulsa a few more weeks to pony up more money? .... is it for the expansion fee?.... or to pre-sell more corporate luxury suites to make up for an expected shortfall in fan support?.... or as a face saving measure to cover the WNBA's inability to produce an expansion club for 2010?...

Average WNBA attendance is just under 8,000, and wasn't it only a month ago that Mr. Cameron talked about crowds of "5, 6, 7 or 8,000" fans per game?  

Now this from Mr. Box.... "If we can sell 5,000-6,000 tickets per game, we can be successful"....

So, if we're doing this for the purposes stated by the ownership group and the mayor of Tulsa, then how exactly, does averaging only 5,000 - 6,000 fans per game turn Tulsa into a "Major League City?"



Group eyeing WNBA team for Tulsa in 2010 gets more time
Aug. 26, 2009
http://www.cbssports.com/wnba/story/12116354

"We may be able to push it into September a few weeks before we're faced with a go or no-go deadline," Oklahoma City businessman Bill Cameron said Wednesday at the Tulsa Press Club.

Cameron said Orender flew to Tulsa on Tuesday to meet with potential investors and area business leaders.

Cameron did not specify details on how much capital he's raised from sponsors, only that his group is "maybe two-thirds to 75 percent there."

"We've made some very good progress," he said. "It's just, there's a whole lot of people we've got to [reach]."

Cameron said it was up to the community to "pull together" and develop the corporate support "to show the WNBA that we're ready to have a team here in Tulsa."

In July, investors announced a plan to bring a WNBA franchise to Tulsa. It is unknown whether Tulsa would get an expansion team or whether an existing team would relocate to the city.

Tulsa, with about 385,000 people, would be the second-smallest city with a WNBA franchise -- after Uncasville, Conn. Orender said in July that other cities were being considered by the league, but did not reveal which ones were in the running.

Yes, I'm a soccer guy.  And my perspective is colored by the hard work done by the city, former mayor LaFortune, and a large number of TULSANS earlier this decade to host an MLS exhibition game and put together a successful season ticket drive.  I also know that it was the president of Rainbo bread and a few Tulsa lawyers who put together a couple of NASL exhibition games back in the 70s-- the 1977 exhibition game at Skelly attracted 11,000 fans and the Roughnecks were born....

But this just wreaks of a top-down, OKC-driven effort that can be traced back to Kathy Taylor's support of Bennett and the Thunder in 2008.  

I mean, where's the cultivation of Tulsa grassroots support for this?  Where have these OKC people been for the past year after they bought their way into co-ownership of the Talons? 

[Laramie]

Thanks,

But, Laramie really has me worried. I remembered that I took my son's Cub Scout den to a TU Women's basketball game a year or so ago as part of their advancement requirements. Should I be concerned that these young boys were harmed in some way? Is my son now going to be gay? He already doesn't want to play football, he's happy with just Soccer, is going to a women's basketball game going to push him over the edge? What's next, show tunes and scarves?



What am I going to do?

Swake:

What am I going to do? 

Nothing (Nada),

If your son turns out to be gay; just remember that he is your son and you will need to always be there for him.  The very concerns you have about his not playing football vs. soccer has nothing to do with his sexual orientation or preference--whichever he chooses.

My son is gay and it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother him.   He played football, basketball, soccer and hockey.  He will always be my son and I will always be there for him and to support him whenever he needs me.

Just wish the best for him in life and let him live it as best that he is capable of doing.  My concerns for my son is that he is happy!

[swake]

Swake:

What am I going to do? 

Nothing (Nada),

If your son turns out to be gay; just remember that he is your son and you will need to always be there for him.  The very concerns you have about his not playing football vs. soccer has nothing to do with his sexual orientation or preference--whichever he chooses.

My son is gay and it doesn't bother me if it doesn't bother him.   He played football, basketball, soccer and hockey.  He will always be my son and I will always be there for him and to support him whenever he needs me.

Just wish the best for him in life and let him live it as best that he is capable of doing.  My concerns for my son is that he is happy!

[Laramie]

Swake:

I'm concerned that I gave you the impression that I was being sarcastic.  I could feel that you were going through the same stages I went through when I discovered that my son was gay.

I wish you the best outcome with your personal family situation--Good Luck!

[TheArtist]

Swake:

I'm concerned that I gave you the impression that I was being sarcastic.  I could feel that you were going through the same stages I went through when I discovered that my son was gay.

I wish you the best outcome with your personal family situation--Good Luck!

No no no.... Swake was saying he was being sarcastic, not you lol.

[swake]

No no no.... Swake was saying he was being sarcastic, not you lol.

Yes, I was being sarcastic. No, I don't think my son is gay, and I think by eight I would know. I firmly believe that you are born wired one way or the other. I feel for your situation, not that there is something wrong with being gay, but that society does not yet treat gay people as full citizens. Many, if not most poeople still see being gay as somehow "evil".

I don't wish a life suffering discrimination for how you were born on anyone. You do seem to think that the gay is "catching", for the good of your son you need to get over that and accept him as he was born. You should not in any way "blame" yourself or your son for being gay. It's ok, there's nothing that you nor he did wrong. It's just a somewhat unusual genetic disposition, he will have to learn to accept and embrace being gay. It's your job to help him.

[Laramie]

No no no.... Swake was saying he was being sarcastic, not you lol.

Thanks, Artist for clearing that up!

[TheTed]

I found this amusing: the WNBA gets bumped by Elmo.

According to the standings that I'm now looking at for the first time –it turns out the WNBA has a website and uniforms and everything — the Dream is 15-13. With six games left, they apparently have a chance to make the playoffs.

But there's a problem. It seems the big boys are coming to town. Yes, I'm talking about, "Sesame Street Live!" Elmo has booked Philips Arena. You don't want to get Elmo mad. And I think we know who wears the pants here.

If the Dream make the playoffs, they may not be able to play at Philips because the Muppets have booked the arena for eight shows Sept. 17-20. The team might have to move to Gwinnett, or Georgia Tech, or Georgia, or even in Knoxville, which I happen to believe is the best option, unless an auditorium is Rhode Island also is being considered.

Just so you know, I'm not a really big rules guy. But there's one rule I've always followed: Don't pay attention to any league whose home playoff games are bumped by "Sesame Street Live."

Elmo, the floor is yours.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2009/08/28/sunny-day-elmo-stares-down-dream/

The NBA had a similar situation last spring, when pro wrestling had a date booked that the Denver Nuggets wanted for a playoff game. Of course, wrestling got bumped.

[Oil Capital]

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