Smoke (Former Bourbon St. on Cherry St.)

[dbacks fan]

Best place in Phoenix




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[Gaspar]

Same here.  My brother swears by Billy Sims; I'm just kinda 'meh' about him.

I like Big Daddy's at 11th/Garnett.   Good eats there.

+1 Big Daddy's

[zstyles]

+1 Big Daddy's

Johnnie "Big Daddy" Ball – (Johnnie Ball 1949-2010)

[SXSW]

The building is now sporting a large Marshall's beer sign painted on the side facing Lucky's.

Very nice.  Hope to see more of this around town.

[Conan71]

"Urban BBQ" implies trendy unless they mean "urban" as a euphemism for black, in which case, it will probably rock.  Trendy doesn't fly with true BBQ afficionados.

[dbacks fan]

"Urban BBQ" implies trendy unless they mean "urban" as a euphemism for black, in which case, it will probably rock.  Trendy doesn't fly with true BBQ afficionados.

Thank you, very well said.

[Red Arrow]

Urban BBQ is when the smoke wood comes from back alleys and dumpsters.   

[we vs us]

Man, are you guys cranky.  "Urban" is a code word for "pitched towards the younger, monied set."  You know, the kids who wear fedoras and sweater vests, or the legging chicks with seventies afghan sweaters and white wayfarers.  Hipsters, yo.  If you're a downscale or no-scale BBQ afficionado (like, eating from a pit in someone's backyard), this will, I guarantee, NOT appeal to you. 

[dbacks fan]

Man, are you guys cranky.  "Urban" is a code word for "pitched towards the younger, monied set."  You know, the kids who wear fedoras and sweater vests, or the legging chicks with seventies afghan sweaters and white wayfarers.  Hipsters, yo.  If you're a downscale or no-scale BBQ afficionado (like, eating from a pit in someone's backyard), this will, I guarantee, NOT appeal to you. 

In other words, it a place to be seen and seen in. Describes most of Scottsdale.

[Conan71]

Man, are you guys cranky.  "Urban" is a code word for "pitched towards the younger, monied set."  You know, the kids who wear fedoras and sweater vests, or the legging chicks with seventies afghan sweaters and white wayfarers.  Hipsters, yo.  If you're a downscale or no-scale BBQ afficionado (like, eating from a pit in someone's backyard), this will, I guarantee, NOT appeal to you. 

Or, in still other words, kids who are afraid to have real BBQ in North Tulsa, Oak Cliff, anywhere near Prospect in KC or South OKC.  They need to realize yuppie white folk are great entertainment in the black BBQ joints.

"Do you mind if we dance with your dates?"

[DowntownDan]

I'm more excited about the Back Alley BBQ and Blues going in downtown.  Sounds like they will be trying for a Memphis vibe.  I hope they do it right and that it makes it.

Also, has anyone heard about the Treehouse Barbeque joint going in on 18th and Boston?  Seems like they did a lot of renovation, which seems odd since Oscars had just done a significant amount of renovating themselves.  I'm interested to see what their niche is.

[DTowner]

So, Tree House on 18th & Boston, Smoke on Cherry St., Back Alley BBQ in the Blue Dome, and Oklahoma Joe's in the Brady Dist.  While each appears to be aiming for a different bbq niche, four opening in a year is a lot of bbq for midtown/downtown to absorb.  Even if they are all great, it is hard to see how all four can make it.  I would not be surprised to see some of these that not yet too far along to hold off to see how the others do before giving it a go.

[Gaspar]

So, Tree House on 18th & Boston, Smoke on Cherry St., Back Alley BBQ in the Blue Dome, and Oklahoma Joe's in the Brady Dist.  While each appears to be aiming for a different bbq niche, four opening in a year is a lot of bbq for midtown/downtown to absorb.  Even if they are all great, it is hard to see how all four can make it.  I would not be surprised to see some of these that not yet too far along to hold off to see how the others do before giving it a go.

There can only be one!

[tulsabug]

Johnnie "Big Daddy" Ball – (Johnnie Ball 1949-2010)

best BBQ and the nicest guy you'll ever meet (no pun intended)

[Conan71]

If I ever do open a 'que joint the slogan will be:

"It's hard to beat our meat"