What is it about some Republicans and their dislike (hatred) of our President...

Started by Hoss, August 28, 2009, 07:57:06 AM

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Hoss

Quote from: guido911 on August 29, 2009, 04:09:32 PM
I could not care less enough about your thoughts about me or what I believe in. For the eight years of the NAZI, fascist, Bush administration, I listened to incessant bashing of that commander in chief, repiglicans, and neocons. Where was your outrage when that was going on? So thicken up your skin now that the shoe is on the other foot. Incidentally, I applauded Obama's original position on the AIG bonuses and his visit to Iraq.  

As for my issues with the military, education, and wealth, funny you would go there. These are the issues that beset the "warmonger" chanters who attacked our troops during the Iraq war (General Betray Us?) as well as those who suffer wealth envy. Everything I have, I earned. You are all for taking that from me and give it to some deadbeat or failure. Sorry if you cannot see how those issues are personal.

When I see people expressing outrage over the "angry mobs" at these town halls, I wonder if those same people in this forum were outraged over images such as this:


And this really raised the level of political discourse:





Here is an article that aptly summarizes this point.
http://www.sfexaminer.com/opinion/columns/oped_contributors/Remember-when-protest-was-seen-as-patriotism-52675512.html

Hmm.

last time I checked, it bordered on treason to suggest shooting your CIC.  Right?  Or is that only when he's affiliated with your party....and has an (R) next to his name.

::)

waterboy

As a matter of fact, I was outraged by those images. The rest of your post seems to be like the children in the principals office. No comment there worth addressing. You obviously don't know me or pay much attention to my posts if you think I suffer wealth envy. I just don't like those who are doing well to castigate everyone else and assume their failure to progress as you think necessary is due to their sloth, ignorance or heritage. I also am irritated by anyone who thinks they "made it" by themselves without help from their government. That's who I am. I respected Reagan and was truly impressed with all that he accomplished even though most of it was counter to my beliefs. You can't say the same about a Kennedy or Obama.

Sorry FOTD for the slur of association. I merely mean that you both post incendiary, eye-poking posts that make your personalities become the focus rather than the issues.

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 28, 2009, 01:33:53 PM
Nobody's forgotten, but the abuse didn't start in earnest until he'd had time to earn it. Moreover, the republicans seem to have "forgotten" about the abuse heaped on Clinton. (I'm sure we could play this game all the way back to 1787)

No, it started with hanging chads, actually.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Conan71

Quote from: Ed W on August 29, 2009, 08:54:36 AM
I don't know if all of you noticed, but our new president is a black guy. 


What makes him more black than white?  His dad was black, his mom was white.  He's just as white as he is black.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Ed W

Quote from: Conan71 on August 30, 2009, 05:54:53 PM
What makes him more black than white?  His dad was black, his mom was white.  He's just as white as he is black.

Good point.  It's something I'll remember in future.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

FOTD

Guido, the outrage raised upon the Busheviks was over the disregard for our constitution and the lies behind going to war.

The outrage directed at Obama is race based.

Big diff.

Learn to lose, loser.

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 30, 2009, 05:53:56 PM
No, it started with hanging chads, actually.
People saying he wasn't elected legitimately started with the election. The real abuse didn't start until later. Hitler comparisons and other extremely distasteful things started around the time of the Patriot Act BS, and only got louder as more about his administration's civil liberties abuses came to light in 2003.

Calling someone stupid because they can't speak isn't very nice, but it's nothing like saying "Obama=Hitler" or calling him a socialist just because you disagree with Keynesian economics. Of course, IMO, socialist shouldn't be an insult at all, but after the cold war, socialism is very much conflated with the authoritarian politics of the Soviet Union in the minds of our electorate, so it is tantamount to calling someone Stalin.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 31, 2009, 02:01:15 AM

his administration's civil liberties abuses came to light in 2003.


Civil liberties "abuses" which continue under the Obama administration.

Please, it's a bit early in the morning for spewing my coffee all over my computer.  Save the humorous replies until later in the day.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on August 31, 2009, 08:21:39 AM
Civil liberties "abuses" which continue under the Obama administration.
I never claimed otherwise. While Obama has done a small amount to curb a few of the most egregious Bush administration policies, that particular subject is one on which he has been shamefully silent.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on August 31, 2009, 02:58:51 PM
I never claimed otherwise. While Obama has done a small amount to curb a few of the most egregious Bush administration policies, that particular subject is one on which he has been shamefully silent.

Keep digging Nathan

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan



Townsend


Crash Daily

I would vote for a black Republican as President and so far, every conservative I've talked to would as well. Look who heads up the RNC. That's not saying there are not racists on BOTH sides but they are really the minority these days. I pop off jokes to make sure and offend as many different ethnicities as possible. It's your P***Y, cry baby reactions that I'm looking for. I love letting you stupid, guilt ridden, white lefties get all bugged out and those of any other color, that can't laugh at yourself as well. You're idiots and you actually empower the perpetuation of racism. Stop giving power to the words. Oh, i forgot, you place much higher value on symbolism over substance. That's why you are Dims, so it won't ever change.

Martin Luther King Jr. implored us all to judge men, not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character. The Democratic party has don't NOTHING, but judge by color of skin, with racial quotas, voting for people specifically based on the color of their skin and passing legislation, to increase their votes, instead of doing whatever might be best for the nation, based on color of skin or certain nationalities that are in the minority. I think Martin Luther King Jr. would be sick and ashamed at what you've become, especially those who do so, in his name.

I am utterly opposed to Barack Obama. If he were as white as Jimmy Carter I would like him no more and oppose him no less. He's a puppet and a Socialist/Communist and by the very values, (I use that term loosely) he promotes and upholds, I find his character and any who are still so blind as to support him, quite wanting. I will not be shamed in to silence with your accusations, like racist or "Global Warming Denier". That Sol Alinski, left wing, communist tactic never worked on me and now the rest of the nation is beginning to open their eyes to HIS play book and YOUR deceptions, in constantly using it. Now it's not working on them either. The independents and yes even the breath of fresh air, of a few Liberals, are starting to see the light and join us in opposition. As for the rest of you, WAKE UP! Right now you just look like birds of a commie feather. Barack is your one eyed king, because your Party exists in the Liberal land of the blind.



Hoss

Quote from: Crash Daily on September 02, 2009, 01:56:40 AM
I would vote for a black Republican as President and so far, every conservative I've talked to would as well. Look who heads up the RNC. That's not saying there are not racists on BOTH sides but they are really the minority these days. I pop off jokes to make sure and offend as many different ethnicities as possible. It's your P***Y, cry baby reactions that I'm looking for. I love letting you stupid, guilt ridden, white lefties get all bugged out and those of any other color, that can't laugh at yourself as well. You're idiots and you actually empower the perpetuation of racism. Stop giving power to the words. Oh, i forgot, you place much higher value on symbolism over substance. That's why you are Dims, so it won't ever change.

Martin Luther King Jr. implored us all to judge men, not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character. The Democratic party has don't NOTHING, but judge by color of skin, with racial quotas, voting for people specifically based on the color of their skin and passing legislation, to increase their votes, instead of doing whatever might be best for the nation, based on color of skin or certain nationalities that are in the minority. I think Martin Luther King Jr. would be sick and ashamed at what you've become, especially those who do so, in his name.

I am utterly opposed to Barack Obama. If he were as white as Jimmy Carter I would like him no more and oppose him no less. He's a puppet and a Socialist/Communist and by the very values, (I use that term loosely) he promotes and upholds, I find his character and any who are still so blind as to support him, quite wanting. I will not be shamed in to silence with your accusations, like racist or "Global Warming Denier". That Sol Alinski, left wing, communist tactic never worked on me and now the rest of the nation is beginning to open their eyes to HIS play book and YOUR deceptions, in constantly using it. Now it's not working on them either. The independents and yes even the breath of fresh air, of a few Liberals, are starting to see the light and join us in opposition. As for the rest of you, WAKE UP! Right now you just look like birds of a commie feather. Barack is your one eyed king, because your Party exists in the Liberal land of the blind.




Getting your talking points from Beck?