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Started by guido911, August 30, 2009, 12:14:19 PM

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Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on September 05, 2009, 03:21:24 PM
Congratulations, you agree with the vast majority of pro-life activists. (It must be snark week, sorry)

Most of the "pro-life activists" I've met or read about don't want abortion to be legal under (almost) any circumstances.  I think there is a difference between that and my position.  While I said I don't think abortion should be used as a casual substitute for birth control, which is my personal opinion and I still stand by that, did I say anywhere that it should be illegal to do so?  I don't remember writing that. 

Your evaluation of my position contradicts RUF's evaluation.  I answered RUF, somewhat, on my position on gun control.  Lucky for me I don't value either RUF's or your opinion of me.  (I expect you don't value anything I think of either of you two either.)
 

USRufnex

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Quote from: Red Arrow on September 05, 2009, 03:07:48 PM
From you, I take nothing as a compliment. 

Quote from: Red Arrow on September 05, 2009, 03:49:19 PM
Your evaluation of my position contradicts RUF's evaluation.  I answered RUF, somewhat, on my position on gun control.  Lucky for me I don't value either RUF's or your opinion of me.  (I expect you don't value anything I think of either of you two either.)

Huh? 

I didn't post what I thought your position was on abortion or gun control.
I wrote that these days, republicans who are either pro-choice or for reasonable gun control have been marginalized to RINO status...... the only exception to that rule has been Rudy Giuliani....



If Republicans held more of these values, I'd be more inclined to split my ticket from time to time....
http://moderaterepublican.net/id1.html
"It is our solemn responsibility to show that government can have both a head and a heart; that it can be both progressive and solvent; and that it can serve the people without becoming their master." -- Gov. Thomas E. Dewey

Red Arrow

Quote from: USRufnex on September 05, 2009, 10:27:22 PM
Huh? 

I didn't post what I thought your position was on abortion or gun control.
I wrote that these days, republicans who are either pro-choice or for reasonable gun control have been marginalized to RINO status......

By labeling me as a RINO that you implied that I was "either pro-choice or for reasonable gun control".  I thought I'd let you know where I stand.
 

Red Arrow

Quote from: USRufnex on September 05, 2009, 10:27:22 PM

If Republicans held more of these values, I'd be more inclined to split my ticket from time to time....

Good examples of noble goals with the implementation of these goals defining the difference between Democrats and Republicans.   A few of the planks did sound a bit like Republicans should adopt Democrat policy.
 

nathanm

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Quote from: Red Arrow on September 05, 2009, 03:49:19 PM
Most of the "pro-life activists" I've met or read about don't want abortion to be legal under (almost) any circumstances.  I think there is a difference between that and my position.  While I said I don't think abortion should be used as a casual substitute for birth control, which is my personal opinion and I still stand by that, did I say anywhere that it should be illegal to do so?  I don't remember writing that. 

Your evaluation of my position contradicts RUF's evaluation.  I answered RUF, somewhat, on my position on gun control.  Lucky for me I don't value either RUF's or your opinion of me.  (I expect you don't value anything I think of either of you two either.)
Sorry, I must have been on drugs, as I meant "pro-choice." My fault. I'm an idiot. Flog me in public, please.  :o

Had I posted the other paragraph I decided to delete in favor of letting the one-liner stand on its own, it would have been obvious I meant the opposite of what I said.

I agree that most pro life activists would like to see abortion outlawed entirely. (The exception being the few who argue for it being illegal except in cases of rape, incest, or likely fatality of the mother)

To elaborate on my position, statistics bear out that the state of the economy has a much larger effect on the number of abortions performed than any restrictions placed on it being performed by freepers in the statehouse. Therefore, rather than focusing our energy on shaming women or forcing them back into coat hanger abortions, we ought to be focusing on making it easier for women to make the choice we'd all prefer they make.

I get the feeling that many pro-lifers think that the pro-choice opinion of abortion is like this:



Since that's not the case, the fact that it's such a hot button issue is utterly stupid.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Red Arrow

Quote from: nathanm on September 06, 2009, 10:09:30 PM
Sorry, I must have been on drugs, as I meant "pro-choice." My fault. I'm an idiot. Flog me in public, please.  :o

OK, consider yourself flogged.