Prize Winning Column Nailing Racist "Teabaggers"

[Conan71]

No, they're really all about "keep the fuckers out." Which is sad. As I said, I prefer legal immigration. Sadly, our immigration policies are largely to blame. We can build all the fences we like and we'll still have them coming over here. It stands to reason we ought to make it possible for them to do so legally.

The Minutemen, on the other hand, would be just as upset if we increased our immigration quota and made it easier for them to come here illegally as they are about the illegal immigration. There may also be an element of "they took our jobs" also, but it's really about fear of the day when whites are no longer the majority.

Now, I'm not saying it's not possible to have a big problem with illegal immigration and not have a problem with hispanics in general. It certainly is. But those aren't the people who get so upset about it that they feel the need to pull up a lawn chair at the border and sit around with their shotgun hoping to find some illegals making the crossing.

Really?  Did you get all that information from the Minutemen web site or are you just speculating? 

[custosnox]

You really think people don't want jobs? Perhaps a good way to find out is job insurance.

You also seem to be under the false notion that there is such a thing as cash welfare anymore. Food stamp benefits are strictly time-limited with the exception of families with children. Unemployment is insurance. Medicaid again only applies to a small subset of the population. If you are, for example, a single man you can't get assistance, with the exception of a couple of months of food stamps once every few years. (And perhaps housing assistance, I'm not sure about that one)

I think you've fallen for Reagan's "welfare queen" lie.

I am under no false notion. I also said too many, I did not say all.  If you are going to try and tell me that all the poor are that way because of society, or some other situation other then the fact that they don't want to get off their hindends and work, then I'll say open your eyes.  Go to North Tulsa and get to know people.  I don't mean go say hi and ask a couple of questions about  who they are. I mean really get to know them.  Spend some time in the projects, hang out with them, get to know them.  You will quickly learn how so many of them will make it by as simply as they can.  As far as the not giving them cash, that doesn't stop them from selling $100 worth of foodstamps to someone else for $50 cash.  I don't get my information from a politician who has never stepped foot into the wrong side of town without an armed escort, I get it from being there.  

[cannon_fodder]

Nathan had a good point about a single man though.  A single mother or a couple with a child, however, will get housing (section , food (food stamps & wic), transit vouchers, medical, and other things (job training, day care assistance, school lunches/breakfast for free).  They get enough in benefits that they often have to sluff hours or work for cash to avoid losing benefits. 

The welfare queen image is false.  No one lives high on the hog.  But they can live well enough that it isn't worth it to work.  If the choice is live in a small apartment eating low-grade food and having no spending money with all the free time in the world . . . or working your donkey off to live in a small apartment, eating low grade food, and having enough spending money to catch a movie a few times a year - many people just choose to sit on their butt.

I'm all for helping people.  It's in MY interest to get people back on their feet, to educate children and keep them healthy (so they can be productive in the future), to ensure the "bottom rung" doesn't resort to crime.  But I don't want to encourage sloth and free loading.  Finding that middle ground is the hard part.

[custosnox]

Nathan had a good point about a single man though.  A single mother or a couple with a child, however, will get housing (section , food (food stamps & wic), transit vouchers, medical, and other things (job training, day care assistance, school lunches/breakfast for free).  They get enough in benefits that they often have to sluff hours or work for cash to avoid losing benefits. 

The welfare queen image is false.  No one lives high on the hog.  But they can live well enough that it isn't worth it to work.  If the choice is live in a small apartment eating low-grade food and having no spending money with all the free time in the world . . . or working your donkey off to live in a small apartment, eating low grade food, and having enough spending money to catch a movie a few times a year - many people just choose to sit on their butt.

I'm all for helping people.  It's in MY interest to get people back on their feet, to educate children and keep them healthy (so they can be productive in the future), to ensure the "bottom rung" doesn't resort to crime.  But I don't want to encourage sloth and free loading.  Finding that middle ground is the hard part.

Much better said then my ramblings.  This is at the heart of the point I was trying to make.  I just let my personal feelings get caught up in what I was saying.  IT hits a personal note for me because I have an ex-wife that refuses to work and is living off of my child support and walfare, and the child support is enought to explain why I'm in the poor house.

[Red Arrow]

Much better said then my ramblings.  This is at the heart of the point I was trying to make.  I just let my personal feelings get caught up in what I was saying.  IT hits a personal note for me because I have an ex-wife that refuses to work and is living off of my child support and walfare, and the child support is enought to explain why I'm in the poor house.

Cheer up.  Someday hopefully your kids will turn 18.