Mark Perkins, does he have a chance?

[Conan71]

1.--What he said-Dumb-I will vote NO
2.-Undecided--I go back and forth-?
3. No--I agree with sgrizzle--no case will ever be settled if the council has to vote on it--It takes major political will to decide to settle a large $ case.  Most government officials never agree--because they usually have no personal skin in the game-- and force most cases to trial. 

The Alvin McGee case is a good example--$13 million verdict I think--could have been settled prior to trial by LaFortune for $900K--settled post trial by Taylor administration (Baker for Taylor she recused) pending appeal for $11 million.  City got a good deal--with interest and plaintiff's attorney's fees it could have gotten up to $14 or 15 million on appeal.

Also remember that these settlements go into the sinking fund and do not come out of the general fund--just passed along to the property tax base.  So there is no real incentive to settle to begin with and when you add to the mix the need for 5 more votes on the council to get something settled and you have to air all the merits or demerits of settlement in a public meeting--it will just not get done.  So if you don't want the City to settle any large cases and force them all to trial (with major defense costs that will come out of the general budget & disruption of the regular work of the city employees) then you should vote yes.

Reasonable logic behind this, but you almost make it sound as if the council can never get together as a majority on anything.  If that were true, we'd have a back-log of unfinished business at the council level dating back for years.  I think councilors would understand what is at stake and be able to come to a consensus in an expeditious manner like they do on a multitude of other issues. 

Or to approach it another way, do you think it would have been appropriate for the council to have stepped in when there appeared to be a conflict of interest between the Mayor and plaintiff in the Great Plains case?  I honestly can't see where it's appropriate for a former director of the plaintiff to single-handedly approve a settlement with minimal to no discussion.  I believe there should, at a minimum, be some sort of oversight function to determine if there could be a conflict-of-interest prior to signing off on a settlement.

If I have my facts twisted on the GP settlement or Mayor Taylor's former involvement with the BOK board, please feel free to correct me.

[SXSW]

Not sure about Adelson and Bartlett but Perkins has really used Facebook and Twitter to his advantage over the past few months.  He has reached out to the younger demographic which Adelson and Bartlett have really not done at all.  I don't think it wins him the election but he will get a lot more votes than many people originally thought. 

[Conan71]

Not sure about Adelson and Bartlett but Perkins has really used Facebook and Twitter to his advantage over the past few months.  He has reached out to the younger demographic which Adelson and Bartlett have really not done at all.  I don't think it wins him the election but he will get a lot more votes than many people originally thought. 

I think he's doing the best he can with his comparatively limited resources.  If he could afford an all-out media blitz these last few days, I think he could pull it off.

[RecycleMichael]

Not sure about Adelson and Bartlett but Perkins has really used Facebook and Twitter to his advantage over the past few months.  He has reached out to the younger demographic which Adelson and Bartlett have really not done at all.  I don't think it wins him the election but he will get a lot more votes than many people originally thought. 

I am facebook friends with both Adelson and Perkins. I counted the number of political posts and they are the same (13) in the last five weeks. Mark Perkins also posts thoughts about football, asks about restaurants, and thanked everybody for their birthday wishes this week.

I don't think either one of them has done a good job at using social media. It can be such a powerful tool and they need to embrace it and use it every day about everything they want to get out.

[sgrizzle]

I am facebook friends with both Adelson and Perkins. I counted the number of political posts and they are the same (13) in the last five weeks. Mark Perkins also posts thoughts about football, asks about restaurants, and thanked everybody for their birthday wishes this week.

I don't think either one of them has done a good job at using social media. It can be such a powerful tool and they need to embrace it and use it every day about everything they want to get out.

But when asked a simple questions about Twitter, only Perkins knew the answer. My bet is Adelson's volunteers have done a lot of his SM.

[Conan71]

But when asked a simple questions about Twitter, only Perkins knew the answer. My bet is Adelson's volunteers have done a lot of his SM.

And from what my peeps in the media are telling me, a lot of his due dilligence about which way to think on Tulsa issues.  For as good a job as I thought he did as a state Senator, he's been a huge disappointment to me in the mayoral race.

[PonderInc]

I have lost count of the number of cardstock "glossies" I've received in the mail from Adelson.  They all have the same picture on the front, so, for the longest time I thought they were all duplicates.  ("Why are they spamming me with snail mail?!")  If it's not a first class letter, I typically don't look at junk mail very closely.  As a result, I would just toss them immediately into the recycle bin. 

Just recently I glanced at the back of one, and realized that each one might have had a different message on the back.  (I'm not sifting through the recycle bin to find out.)  Pretty goofy, expensive, and outdated.  Wonder who's doing the PR?

[Conan71]

I have lost count of the number of cardstock "glossies" I've received in the mail from Adelson.  They all have the same picture on the front, so, for the longest time I thought they were all duplicates.  ("Why are they spamming me with snail mail?!")  If it's not a first class letter, I typically don't look at junk mail very closely.  As a result, I would just toss them immediately into the recycle bin. 

Just recently I glanced at the back of one, and realized that each one might have had a different message on the back.  (I'm not sifting through the recycle bin to find out.)  Pretty goofy, expensive, and outdated.  Wonder who's doing the PR?

And not very green either...

[FOTD]

CoCo,

To rehash all the ins and outs of GP would be too time consuming. It wasn't likely the BOK board decided, just the owner. And it goes something like this, "business is business. The COT made an agreement with the bank which by reason of credit worthiness and, paramount, the integrity of a business relationship this special asset loss needs to be remedied per the original agreement." Then a side deal was made whereby the owner obviously indicated the COT will get back 10 times that amount when the owner decides when and where to spread his generosity to the community. The devil has stated this for the past 3 years to everyone's condemnation on TNF.

The idea of 3 year terms makes good sense.

How could anyone here want to run the risk of having a complete novice who has run zilch run our city? At this stage of his career he is just a twit.

[sgrizzle]

I get a flyer from Bartlett and Adelson roughly every day.

[CoffeeBean]

Perkins may not have a chance, but he's clearly hurting Dewey . . . received my first attack mailer against Perkins, "Paid for by Dewey Bartlett for Mayor."

Bartlett points out that "Mark Perkins was the only mayoral candidate to support more regulations on our firearms," which means, "Mark Perkins wants to take away our Second Amendment right to bear arms."

Has Bartlett confused regulation with prohibition? 

   

[Bubblehead]

Perkins is a nice guy, will he win?  No.

Does he have a political future? Yes.

Has an Independent ever won anything in Tulsa?

[custosnox]

I think Perkins would have much more of a chance if people would stop with the "why waste my vote since he is going to loose anyhow" attitude.  There are enough people out there that would like to see him in charge more then they would like to see the opposition, but think that if they vote for Perkins, then they have just thrown out their vote and would rather vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils between Bartlett and Adelson. 

[Conan71]

I think Perkins would have much more of a chance if people would stop with the "why waste my vote since he is going to loose anyhow" attitude.  There are enough people out there that would like to see him in charge more then they would like to see the opposition, but think that if they vote for Perkins, then they have just thrown out their vote and would rather vote for what they see as the lesser of two evils between Bartlett and Adelson. 

More and more people are thinking like you and I.  I think he can do it.

[FOTD]

How could anyone here want to run the risk of having a complete novice who has run zilch run our city? At this stage of his career he is just a twit.

That new avatar is stupid...