Jack in the Box in B.A.

[TheTed]

Durant's Jack in the Box is open 24/7, but ours isn't even open until post-bar time.

[fotd]

Durant's Jack in the Box is open 24/7, but ours isn't even open until post-bar time.

Well, it is Broken Arrow......

[TheTed]

Well, it is Broken Arrow......

I'm waiting until the Tulsa location(s) open. If they're not open 24/7 I'm not even gonna consider dining there. Businesses that have worse hours in Tulsa than they do in every small town don't deserve my money (looking at you, Steak n Shake and Wendys).

[sgrizzle]

I'm waiting until the Tulsa location(s) open. If they're not open 24/7 I'm not even gonna consider dining there. Businesses that have worse hours in Tulsa than they do in every small town don't deserve my money (looking at you, Steak n Shake and Wendys).

Quiktrip.. 24/7 baby..

[dbacks fan]

One of my friends was in line for an hour just to get some fast food there.  I drove past it at 10:00PM last night and the drive through was lined up.  I think it is crazy that people around here freak out so much over something new to the area.

That's what happened when In-N-Out Burger came to Phoenix and it is still the same way 6 years later.

[swake]

That's what happened when In-N-Out Burger came to Phoenix and it is still the same way 6 years later.

Yes, but Jack in the Box is nasty, In-N-Out is pretty good.

[Townsend]

Jack kills.

http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak

In 1993, hundreds of people were injured and four children died after eating at Jack in the Box restaurants. The primary cause of the outbreak was adulterated hamburger patties manufactured and sold to the restaurant chain by one of its suppliers.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Yeah....the propaganda machine (Tulsa World) has to say something about why they left the area to start.  Consolidation of effort.

(Trying ) Not to mention the salmonella trip...

And how could knowledge about what is in the stuff you eat possibly be Socialism??

Oh, wait,... the Republicontin kicks in again.  (Re-branded Quaalude).

[Townsend]

When will they have to post nutritional information?

[Hawkins]

Yeah....the propaganda machine (Tulsa World) has to say something about why they left the area to start.  Consolidation of effort.

(Trying ) Not to mention the salmonella trip...

And how could knowledge about what is in the stuff you eat possibly be Socialism??

Oh, wait,... the Republicontin kicks in again.  (Re-branded Quaalude).

Did the World mention it? Because when I think of Jack in the Box, that little boy dying in California is the first thing that comes to mind.

I'm glad they're making a comeback though. More choices is good.  I might actually eat there if I'm up that way.

<<be sure to order the burger well-done>>

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[heironymouspasparagus]

May have to try them too.  Definitely well done.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

Jack kills.

http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/view/jack-in-the-box-e-coli-outbreak

You should check out the movie "Food Inc." if you haven't already.  It's all about the money not the quality of the food.

[nathanm]

Mmm, ammonia treated mostly-fat beef trimmings. That don't get tested for bacterial contamination.

McDonald's was really happy when someone came up with that idea. It let them substitute the soy for "real beef," such that they can have "100% beef" burgers again. Never mind that 20 to 30% of the burger patty is now "meat" that nobody in their right mind would eat if they knew. (I'm not in my right mind, I eat it on occasion)

[dbacks fan]

"In 1993, hundreds of people were injured and four children died after eating at Jack in the Box restaurants. The primary cause of the outbreak was adulterated hamburger patties manufactured and sold to the restaurant chain by one of its suppliers."

Yes this was a tragic event, but here are some real numbers on deaths from food poisoning in the US per year, and ecoli avareages 61 per year.

From the CDC:
"To better quantify the impact of foodborne diseases on health in the United States, we compiled and analyzed information from multiple surveillance systems and other sources. We estimate that foodborne diseases cause approximately 76 million illnesses, 325,000 hospitalizations, and 5,000 deaths in the United States each year. Known pathogens account for an estimated 14 million illnesses, 60,000 hospitalizations, and 1,800 deaths. Three pathogens, Salmonella, Listeria, and Toxoplasma, are responsible for 1,500 deaths each year, more than 75% of those caused by known pathogens, while unknown agents account for the remaining 62 million illnesses, 265,000 hospitalizations, and 3,200 deaths. Overall, foodborne diseases appear to cause more illnesses but fewer deaths than previously estimated. "

http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/EID/vol5no5/mead.htm

and from another site:

"Death rate extrapolations for USA for Food poisoning: 5,000 per year, 416 per month, 96 per week, 13 per day, 0 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second. Note: this automatic extrapolation calculation uses the deaths statistic: about 5,000 annually in USA"

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/food_poisoning/deaths.htm

So while that event was tragic, if you compare the 4 in Washington State to the average of 61 ecoli deaths per year, that was 0.065 percent of the total ecoli deaths. And with ecoli at 61 compared to the other 4936 deths/year, that is a very small percentage.

And these are only the reported numbers of food poisoning as the official cause.

I'm not too concerned about eating at Jack. Besides, it tastes better than the clown, the king, and the girl. JMO

[dbacks fan]

Also to be fair, here is the article referenced, and be sure to read the last two paragraphs:

Jack in the Box Ends E. Coli Suits
The National Law Journal
November 17, 1997
BOB VAN VORIS

The last personal injury case over the 1993 E. coli breakout at Jack in the Box has settled, with lawyers for a 13-year-old boy here announcing Oct. 29 that they had accepted $ 3 million.

More than 600 people got sick in January 1993 from eating undercooked Jack in the Box hamburgers contaminated with E. coli, a bacterium that can cause diarrhea, abdominal pain and, in severe cases, kidney failure and even death. Most of the victims were children living in Washington state; four of them died.

In addition to Foodmaker Inc., the corporate owner of the West Coast-based Jack in the Box fast-food chain, lawyers for the 13-year-old sued the Vons Cos., which prepared hamburger patties for the chain, numerous beef suppliers and the local franchise operator. This latest settlement came from a $ 100 million fund established by 10 of the defendants' insurers, said one of those lawyers, William Marler, of Kargianis Watkins Marler in Seattle.

The boy, whose name is being withheld, spent 10 days in a hospital, where he required dialysis and blood transfusions. He has recovered but will require medical monitoring, said Mr. Marler.

Mr. Marler also represented the family of Brianne Kiner, a 9-year-old girl who fell into a 42-day coma after eating a contaminated hamburger. The girl, who continues to be treated for her injuries, received $ 15.6 million to settle in 1995.

A class action by plaintiffs with relatively minor injuries was settled for $ 12 million.

Jack in the Box was initially criticized for its handling of the crisis, losing credibility and stock market value immediately after the outbreak. But observers say the chain quickly recovered by instituting industry standard-setting food handling and cooking techniques.

And Mr. Marler, who said he recovered about $ 40 million in settlements for clients in the Jack in the Box cases, praised the companies and their lawyers for the way they've handled the claims: "They paid out in a way that made everybody walking away form the settlement table think they had been treated fairly."

http://www.about-ecoli.com/ecoli_outbreaks/news/jack-in-the-box-ends-e-coli-suits1/